6.065 7.580 #FOSTER: So Erasmus laid the the- -- 7.585 8.315 laid the egg, 8.315 9.540 which Luther hatched. 10.225 11.185 ... (TSK) And um, 11.175 12.250 .. when you come then, 12.250 12.850 .. to= (Hx), 12.850 13.185 uh, 13.185 14.345 however this debate. 14.345 15.650 .. This freedom of the will. 16.040 16.640 (H) Um, 16.935 17.720 ... I think uh, 17.715 19.685 let me read you a .. page from Brendler. 19.665 22.155 .. Because it sets the sa- stage very nicely. 22.170 24.810 This is in the Luther book some of you are reading, 24.810 25.890 (H) and um, 25.890 26.913 ... if you, 26.913 28.547 (H) this evening when you go home, 28.547 30.267 if you wanna meditate it on more, 30.267 31.251 (Hx) on- on it more, 31.251 33.371 it's on page three eleven. 33.371 35.215 ... (TSK) (H) It's on page three eleven. 35.215 35.891 .. (H) But, 35.891 36.843 let me just read you the-, 36.843 38.902 cause this gives us the setting very nicely, 38.902 40.654 and then .. we can .. uh, 40.654 44.771 .. (H) . 67.080 69.754 ... (TSK) And this is what Luther writes to Erasmus. 69.754 71.628 (H) ... . 105.430 106.874 .. (TSK) (H) And he wrote to Luther. 106.874 111.637 . 116.892 119.043 ... (H) And then, 119.043 120.518 .. , 121.686 123.007 .. this is Brendler now, 123.007 123.376 obs- -- 123.376 124.113 uh on this uh, 124.113 126.172 but this sets the stage for what we're gonna .. talk about, 126.172 128.907 (H) . 131.058 136.343 ... (TSK) Pico de la Mirandela would not have consented to the doctrine of original sin. 136.345 138.125 .. (H) (TSK) The author of uh, 138.125 138.341 .. what is it, 138.341 139.201 Houseman I think, 139.201 140.061 139.201 140.061 of Invictus. 140.061 142.243 .. . 144.240 148.082 (H) I don't think that he would (Hx) .. acknowledge original sin. 148.082 149.618 (H) uh, 149.618 149.905 alright, 149.905 150.460 what is it, 150.460 150.786 it's . 204.285 206.220 ... This is what Erasmus asked. 206.220 209.232 ... (H) (TSK) . 275.452 277.880 (H) ... U=m, 277.880 279.509 ... uh=, 279.509 280.431 skip this paragraph, 280.431 281.475 this is the paragraph though. 281.475 281.905 Right here. 281.905 282.445 The next one. 282.440 284.395 (TSK) (H) .. P- on page three twelve. 284.395 284.794 When you, 284.794 285.378 .. when you read- -- 285.378 286.361 if you wanna read it later. 286.361 287.898 (H) . 322.775 324.619 (H) It is like a horse. 324.619 327.814 (H) Ridden by Go=d or the Devil. 327.814 330.150 ... The rider possesses the will. 330.150 332.178 ... The horse .. obeys READ>. 332.178 335.927 ... (H) Well that's as clear as you can get it. 335.927 339.952 ... (TSK) Human nature is like a horse. 339.952 343.517 ... Ridden by Go=d or the Devil. 343.517 346.651 ... The rider possesses free will. 346.774 349.355 ... The horse= obeys. 349.355 350.400 ... Alright that, 350.400 352.059 th_now the debate is joined you see. 352.059 352.920 And as you come -- 352.920 354.364 as Erasmus comes to this, 354.364 355.347 he's going to say, 355.347 357.775 (H) well let's look at the Scriptures. 357.775 359.035 ... (TSK) Now, 359.035 359.803 .. number one, 359.803 361.247 we have to admit first- -- 361.247 362.323 .. v- first off, 362.323 364.873 (H) that there see=m to be passages, 364.873 366.871 there are passages in the Scriptures, 366.871 367.823 .. are there not? 367.823 369.974 (H) (THROAT) Many. 369.974 371.480 .. Which see=m to teach, 371.480 373.846 that ma=n is responsible for his deeds, 373.846 374.952 and that he may act, 374.952 378.087 and has a free will to respond to the invitation of God. 378.087 379.777 (H) Isn't that clear in the Scriptures? 379.777 381.897 (H) Whosoever wi=ll may come. 381.897 384.355 ... Um, 384.355 386.783 .. Jesus turned to his disciples, 386.783 387.305 you remember, 387.305 388.903 when some deserted him, 388.903 389.979 and .. seemed, 389.979 392.806 because they were disappointed in .. some of his sayings, 392.806 396.124 (H) and they were offended by some of the things he said, 395.817 398.951 (H) ... and they walked no longer with him it said. 398.951 401.441 ... (TSK) And then he turned to those who remained, 401.441 402.117 and he said, 402.117 404.821 ? 404.821 406.081 ... They had a choice. 406.081 406.941 Didn't they? 406.941 409.246 406.941 409.246 ... Will you go away. 409.246 411.458 .. What do you will. 411.458 412.411 (H) .. And the will, 412.411 413.578 .. apparently was, 413.578 416.405 re- resided in .. in these disciples. 416.405 418.372 (H) And so Erasmus is going to say, 418.372 419.202 so obviously, 419.202 421.906 in Scripture we ha=ve .. paradox. 421.906 424.979 ... We have clea=r passages of Scripture, 424.979 428.974 (H) which seem to indicate that ma=n .. <> that will, 430.848 431.493 .. to follow, 431.493 432.692 or not to follow. 432.692 434.689 (H) To respond or not to respond. 434.689 435.611 (H) On the other hand, 435.611 437.639 (H) we have passages of Scripture, 437.639 439.636 (H) which .. seem to indicate, 439.636 441.787 ... that the will is not free, 441.787 442.771 ... and that the-, 442.771 443.908 and that man i- th- is- -- 443.908 448.916 man is predestined .. by a .. an omnipotent sovereign will of God. 448.916 452.143 (H) ... We have to take both these pass- -- 452.143 454.724 So it's not a question of the Scriptural authority. 454.724 456.621 .. We both accept the scriptural authority. 456.570 457.856 And Erasmus in his writings, 457.856 459.818 and in his pamphlet the Liber Arbetrio, 457.856 459.818 in his pamphlet the Liber Arbetrio, 459.818 460.681 says to Luther, 460.681 462.524 qu- because it is addressed to Luther you see, 462.524 464.064 (H) he says to Luther, 464.064 464.723 (H) uh, 464.723 466.026 I will not church -- 466.026 467.362 .. I will not .. question, 467.362 467.785 or I not -- 467.785 468.597 I will not quote. 468.597 471.388 I will not quote the Church Fathers to you, 471.388 475.431 (H) because I understand you accept <@ no Church Father authority, 475.431 477.748 (H) if it is in disagreement with your opinion @>. 477.748 481.368 (H) So I will quote the only authority that you recognize, 481.469 482.620 .. The Holy Scriptures. 482.620 483.719 ... (TSK) And so, 483.719 484.091 .. uh, 484.091 487.051 exclusively Erasmus will appeal to the Scriptures, 487.051 488.269 as his basis. 488.269 490.908 (H) When God created Adam and Eve in the garden, 490.908 492.058 he placed them in the garden, 492.058 493.513 and he said you have a choice. 493.581 494.968 (H)= Uh=, 494.968 495.830 you have a choice. 495.830 498.300 Do not eat of the fruit of the knowledge of the good- -- 498.300 499.738 of the tree of good and evil, 499.738 500.803 for on the day ye eat thereof, 500.803 502.190 ye shall surely die. 502.190 502.765 .. Now=, 502.765 503.645 do not do that, 503.645 506.419 .. and obviously Go=d m=ust have given, 506.419 509.109 the first (H) created pair, 509.109 510.090 (H) a choice. 510.090 515.316 Because the whole (H) system .. of reward or punishment, 515.316 518.598 .. is based upon the decision which is .. these individuals made. 518.598 519.055 Or=, 519.055 521.423 (H) when Cai=n slew Abel. 521.423 523.063 (H)= (TSK) U=m, 523.063 524.603 .. if you do we=ll? 524.603 526.768 .. Shall you not be s- sustained? 526.768 528.020 But if you do evil? 528.020 530.675 (H) Sin .. crouches at the door. 530.675 532.722 ... If you do well. 532.722 533.872 ... Apparently, 533.872 534.616 from this, 534.616 537.001 ... Cain .. had the ability, 537.001 538.270 .. even after the mur- -- 538.270 540.266 0.000000e+00ven after the murder of Abel, 540.266 542.330 (H) he had the ab=ility, 542.330 544.850 (H) to make a positive choice. 544.850 546.423 .. According to Erasmus. 546.423 547.996 That's going to be his position. 547.996 549.265 (H) Well Luther, 549.265 549.941 .. (TSK) um, 549.941 553.257 .. I'll g- I'll I'll tell- say some of the things that he he picked first, 553.257 554.373 Erasmus picked first, 554.373 555.523 (H) and um, 555.523 556.995 .. he's gonna go all through the Scriptures, 556.995 558.822 and he's gonna take passages like this, 558.822 559.786 (H) um, 559.786 562.645 ... (TSK) return return the prophets said, 562.645 564.116 did they not to ancient Israel. 564.116 565.723 Return to the God of the covenant, 565.723 568.413 return (H) Hosea pleads with Gomer, 568.413 570.239 .. please come back .. t_you see. 570.239 571.102 (H) And uh, 571.102 572.658 this is the symbol of Israel, 572.658 574.096 come back to the Lord, 574.096 576.904 (H) come back to the= the husband of the covenant, 576.904 580.033 come back to= the one who called you and summoned you, 580.033 580.964 (H) it's the- -- 580.964 582.977 Erasmus says the whole premise is, 582.977 585.565 (H) that you have a- an ability, 585.565 586.343 to return. 586.343 588.778 That you can make up your mi=nd, 588.778 591.603 (H) to change the course that you're now taking. 591.603 593.650 (H) And that you can .. go this way, 593.650 595.071 .. or you can go that way. 595.065 596.335 (H) And uh, 596.335 598.296 .. then there are other arguments which are, 598.296 599.510 (H) uh, 599.510 600.108 .. here's uh, 600.108 601.442 here's one on um, 601.442 602.696 I'll read an excerpt, 602.696 603.850 ... in this uh, 603.850 604.647 in this little book, 604.647 605.742 this is the um, 605.742 607.334 605.742 607.334 .. the actual uh, 608.808 612.192 ... wr- writings of the s- f- .. freedom of the will, 612.192 615.377 (H) .. here's he .. he uses Ecclesiastes. 615.377 616.412 ... God, 616.412 617.408 and this is a quote, 617.408 618.164 (H) from the b- -- 618.164 618.742 .. from the book. 618.742 621.569 (H) . 654.397 657.005 ... Choose. 657.005 659.454 ... (H) So Erasmus's argument is, 659.454 660.887 .. you have a right to choose. 660.887 661.882 You can choose. 661.882 664.391 (H) And therefore if you can choose, 664.391 668.074 this presupposes ... (TSK) that you have a free will. 668.074 669.308 (H) In any rate, 669.308 671.259 ... if .. man is, 671.259 671.970 ... uh, 671.970 674.305 if there is a necessity in man's action. 674.305 676.614 If he is pre=determined to sin. 676.614 680.317 (H) .. If .. if God has already determined, 680.317 683.483 (H) that this person .. commits these acts. 683.483 687.823 (H) Then .. there can be no responsibility on the part of the actor. 687.823 689.594 (H) On the part of the perpetrator. 689.594 693.297 Because how can a person be held responsible (H) for deeds, 693.297 695.169 (H) which he does, 695.169 697.578 .. if he= 0mself did not will those, 697.578 697.996 the- f- -- 697.996 698.175 if, 698.175 698.792 in other words, 698.812 700.046 he may will those deeds, 700.046 700.604 but those -- 700.604 705.282 th- those deeds were imposed upon his will by a transcendent force. 705.282 707.153 (H)= If that is the case, 707.153 709.045 then there is really no freedom of the will. 709.204 710.677 (H) And if uh=, 710.677 711.493 in that case, 711.493 712.031 therefore, 712.031 714.917 a person cannot be responsible for his deeds, 714.917 717.068 (H) if the deeds which he commits, 717.068 719.437 have already been eternally foreordained. 719.437 721.527 .. (SNIFF) This is uh=, 721.527 723.896 this is going to be then Erasmus's argument, 723.896 726.225 ag- on this qu- on this question of the freedom of the will. 726.225 727.559 (H) But uh=, 727.559 728.674 .. uh, 728.674 732.456 (H) .. we'll .. look at another couple p- uh of his passages. 732.456 732.875 If, 732.875 733.432 .. here it is. 733.432 735.761 . 751.170 756.235 ... (SNIFF) ... (H) How is it paralyzed. 756.235 757.859 Well it's paralyzed by the fall. 757.859 760.825 ... See we all= .. participate in the Adamic nature. 760.825 763.533 ... (TSK) (H) A=nd this Adamic nature, 763.533 763.991 .. uh, 763.991 764.628 when Adam=, 764.628 765.305 .. in Adam=, 765.305 766.619 remember the New Eng- .. New England primer, 766.619 767.992 . 769.087 770.481 (SNIFF)= So=, 770.481 772.312 this Adamic nature has been, 772.312 775.657 .. has been passed on to all generation=s of humans. 775.657 777.747 (H) And so therefore while we -- 777.747 779.599 (H) we have a free will, 779.678 780.037 it is -- 780.037 781.191 it is paralyzed. 781.191 783.899 .. It's not the will .. that was there. 783.899 785.651 .. (H) It's not the will, 785.651 787.004 ... that uh, 787.004 788.717 ... that Adam had. 788.717 792.957 ... Because .. it no longer .. has the freedom .. that Adam had. 792.957 794.390 It is cursed by sin. 794.390 795.844 It is under the curse of sin. 795.844 797.138 (H) So the human will, 797.138 797.954 somehow, 797.954 799.049 is paralyzed. 799.049 801.438 (H) ... Uh Erasmus admits that. 801.438 802.354 (H) And then, 802.354 803.548 Erasmus will say, 803.548 804.484 that um, 804.484 807.629 ... (TSK) (H) God then enables. 807.629 808.505 What God does, 808.505 810.974 and this will be the C- really the modern Catholic view. 810.974 814.916 (H) That God will provide a prevenient grace. 814.916 816.787 ... A prevenient grace. 816.807 817.543 That is in other words, 817.543 821.007 even though I am unwilling to accept the gift of salvation, 821.007 821.605 you see, 821.605 822.978 (H) that um, 822.978 826.482 ... that God will give me a prevenient grace, 826.482 829.070 (H) which will .. enable me, 829.070 831.818 .. to move toward .. this salvation. 831.818 835.520 ... (TSK) (H) And if I then respo=nd. 835.520 837.153 .. positively. 837.153 838.885 (H) .. To the gift of God, 838.885 843.424 (H) then .. God will extend .. the exemplary grace to me, 843.424 846.609 .. which enables me ... to acquire salvation. 846.609 848.421 (H) So prevenient grace, 848.421 849.874 will put you on the path. 849.914 852.801 (H) ... If you respond on the path, 852.801 855.986 (H) then God extends the exemplary grace, 855.986 857.698 (H) which will lead you home. 857.698 860.067 (H) He uses a little= story. 860.067 863.232 860.067 863.232 860.067 863.232 ... A little .. uh .. uh .. allegory. 863.232 864.865 .. Or figure I guess. 864.865 867.035 (H) ... (TSK) Uh there uh there's a n- (Hx) -- 867.035 868.190 ... there's a tot, 868.190 869.185 .. a toddler. 869.185 870.897 ... (H) .. (TSK) Uh, 870.897 873.983 ... but he's got to be %- .. big enough to a=ppreciate apples. 873.983 874.441 .. Okay? 874.441 875.894 @@ <@ Because, 875.894 876.790 @@ his, 876.790 877.387 (H) alright, 877.387 878.442 @ because that's the, 878.442 879.577 that's part of the story @>. 879.577 882.006 (H) There a .. nice .. shiny .. apple. 882.006 882.782 .. Over here. 882.782 884.454 ... (TSK) (H) .. Over here, 884.454 884.972 you see. 884.972 886.684 ... And this .. little .. tot, 886.684 888.317 ... he sees the apple. 888.317 891.024 (TSK) (H) ... A=nd he uh=, 891.024 891.900 .. he needs, 892.019 893.712 .. he wants to get to this apple. 893.712 895.264 ... (H) U=m, 895.264 898.788 ... so he starts ... in the direction of the apple. 898.788 900.222 But he's very unsteady. 900.222 901.018 He wavers. 901.018 901.456 You see, 901.456 902.053 and he's not, 902.053 902.790 (H) so, 902.790 904.880 what .. is the prevenient grace. 904.880 907.010 The prevenient grace is the adult, 907.010 910.235 (H) which .. doesn't .. take him .. to the apple, 910.235 912.664 .. doesn't lift him up and put him next to the apple, 912.664 916.048 (H) b- but ...% ... goes along with him, 916.048 917.243 just guiding him, 917.243 919.532 making sure that he .. he doesn't fall, 919.532 920.528 (H) he just, 920.528 922.220 .. he lets hi=m get there. 922.220 924.908 (H) .. But .. he just .. more or less, 924.947 928.073 (H) supports or sustains the little tot, 928.073 930.163 in his motion .. toward the apple. 930.163 932.353 (H) So the little tot you see, 932.353 934.881 932.353 934.881 ... (TSK) Has decided he wants the apple. 934.881 935.857 Once he sees it, 935.857 936.852 (H) .. uh, 936.852 937.450 then he=, 937.450 938.644 he moves toward it. 938.644 941.949 (H) Prevenient grace assists him .. toward that apple. 941.949 943.024 (H) It doesn't, 943.024 943.462 .. as I said, 943.462 944.895 943.462 944.895 it doesn't carry him there, 944.895 947.782 (H) it doesn't .. go get the apple and bring it to him, 947.782 949.813 (H) he must go to the apple. 949.813 953.456 But he goes= sustained by this prevenient grace. 953.456 954.013 And then, 954.013 954.710 (H) if he, 954.710 956.940 (H) .. if he half way to the apple, 956.940 958.333 if he decides he doesn't want it, 958.333 962.593 ... if he .. if he sees something he th- considers more attractive, 962.593 964.186 .. and he goes off on a tangent, 964.186 965.520 or goes off in a different direction, 965.520 966.515 (H) then you see, 966.515 970.278 .. then his wi=ll has decided that he does not want to cooperate. 970.278 972.209 ... With prevenient grace. 972.209 974.996 (H)= Luther hated that word cooperation. 974.996 976.967 W- particularly in connection with grace. 976.967 978.958 .. (H) Now Luther's position is, 978.958 982.283 .. we are dead ... in trespasses and sin. 982.283 983.338 (H) You see. 983.457 986.762 .. There is (H) nothing (H) that can .. come to us, 986.762 989.430 you see now Luther came to his reformation remember, 989.430 992.197 (H) with this fear of the righteousness of God. 992.197 994.387 (H)= The righteousness of God. 994.387 996.557 And Luther all through his monastic life, 996.557 998.448 up until around fifteen fifteen, 998.448 1000.618 is probably when he made that tower discovery. 1000.618 1003.365 .. (H) That so-called . 1003.365 1005.555 (H) The= tower experience. 1005.555 1008.243 ... (TSK) Where reading in Romans one seventeen, 1008.243 1008.820 ... he read, 1008.820 1009.756 (H) you know, 1009.756 1012.881 ... (THROAT) ... the j- the just .. shall live by faith, 1012.881 1013.180 well, 1013.180 1016.524 .. you have to take rea- really read Romans one sixteen first. 1016.524 1018.674 ... (H) (TSK) U=m, 1018.674 1021.561 .. , 1031.794 1032.988 ... therein, 1032.988 1035.119 it can only refer grammatically to Gospel, 1035.119 1035.576 you see. 1035.576 1037.308 (H) READ>. 1046.924 1048.576 ... A=nd, 1048.576 1049.492 when he discovered this, 1049.592 1050.985 he had read this a hundred times. 1050.985 1052.518 .. But this one time when he read it, 1052.518 1053.693 (H) he said, 1053.693 1055.445 ... suddenly it dawned on him. 1055.445 1056.579 ... What this meant. 1056.579 1059.586 ... , 1059.586 1060.223 Luther said, 1060.223 1061.517 . 1063.468 1066.932 ... . 1066.932 1068.922 (H) ... The light broke in on me. 1068.922 1071.570 (H) ... And what was this light. 1071.570 1073.879 ... (TSK) That the righteousness of God, 1073.879 1075.791 ... is passive righteousness. 1075.791 1077.330 .. It's not the righteousness, 1077.330 1077.610 you see, 1077.610 1078.100 Luther said, 1078.100 1081.086 . 1098.207 1101.791 So you see he was constantly (H) preoccupied with this thought, 1101.791 1102.975 (H) of somehow, 1102.975 1105.812 1102.975 1105.812 (H) satisfying the righteousness of God. 1105.812 1107.106 (H) Through some work. 1107.106 1108.579 .. (H) Through some indulgence. 1108.579 1109.734 (H) Through some prayer. 1109.734 1111.835 S_through- through- through- renunciation. 1111.835 1112.867 Through fasting. 1112.867 1113.925 Through vigils. 1113.925 1114.881 (H) You know, 1114.906 1115.454 he says, 1115.454 1116.181 if a monk, 1116.181 1116.920 if a m- m- % -- 1116.920 1120.872 (H) , 1126.137 1127.348 (H) if ever a monk], 1127.348 1129.439 could've gained heaven through his monkery, 1129.439 1130.867 it would've [been I]. 1130.127 1130.867 AUD: [@=] 1130.867 1133.212 #FOSTER: (H) Because he d- he did everything, 1133.212 1134.373 .. that he thought would, 1134.373 1138.057 .. would make God respond .. sympathetically to him. 1138.057 1140.517 And and pacify= this righteousness. 1140.517 1142.289 (H) And he was always miserable. 1142.289 1144.023 ... (TSK) And then he discovered, 1144.023 1146.330 (H) it's nothing that I do=. 1146.330 1149.262 ... It's what I accept in faith. 1149.262 1150.206 .. Namely, 1150.206 1152.092 ... the sacrifice of Christ, 1152.092 1153.864 the vicarious sacrifice of Christ, 1153.864 1155.330 for my sin on the cross, 1155.330 1156.439 (H) I reach out, 1156.439 1157.702 .. I accept that, 1157.702 1158.798 ... %as my -- 1158.798 1160.506 .. and .. and then the righteousness of God, 1160.608 1162.966 (H) is .. imputed to me. 1162.966 1164.981 ... It's given to me. 1164.981 1168.563 ... The .. . 1168.869 1169.952 ... And so, 1169.952 1172.986 (H) this life .. in God comes to you not, 1172.974 1173.369 .. , 1174.032 1176.046 th- this , 1176.046 1177.206 this concealed God, 1177.206 1178.277 1177.206 1178.277 this angry God, 1178.277 1181.234 this God who's waiting to throw you into Hell at any minute, 1181.234 1183.784 (H)= that .. that was the image that Luther had. 1183.784 1184.625 And now you see, 1184.625 1186.627 and and and works were associated with this. 1186.652 1187.201 His works. 1187.201 1188.042 What do I have to do, 1188.042 1189.661 (H) what do I have to do to placate him. 1189.661 1190.897 What do I have to do to please him. 1191.038 1193.320 (H) And now you see the breakthrough comes. 1193.205 1193.728 (H) So, 1193.740 1194.607 (H) Luther, 1194.607 1195.716 from his point of view, 1195.716 1196.086 you see, 1196.086 1199.031 he's coming at it from an angle of a .. of an Augustinian monk. 1199.031 1199.796 He's coming at it from that. 1199.796 1201.134 With this travail of soul. 1201.134 1204.410 This agony and anguish (H) of looking for this God. 1204.410 1204.971 (H) So, 1204.971 1205.570 (H) he is, 1205.570 1206.909 .. after this discovery, 1206.909 1210.963 1206.909 1210.963 (H) he is going to .. detest (H) anything .. in theology, 1210.963 1214.086 (H) which smacks of (H) human effort, 1214.086 1215.794 ... or human work, 1215.794 1218.739 ... sufficient ... to please God, 1218.739 1219.785 .. or to placate God. 1219.785 1220.766 (H) N=o. 1220.766 1222.984 ... There is nothing you can do to please God. 1222.984 1224.693 (H) .. God .. loves you, 1224.693 1225.878 .. he gives you his grace, 1225.878 1228.772 (H) totally (H) out of his grace, 1228.772 1230.875 .. and n=othing from your merit. 1230.875 1233.348 ... So the human will (H) cannot, 1233.348 1236.395 .. you cannot decide (H) to accept God, 1236.395 1237.441 and his grace. 1237.441 1239.162 ... Even the gift of faith. 1239.162 1240.526 It's interesting in um, 1240.526 1241.686 .. (TSK) in Bonifas, 1241.686 1242.897 in his book= uh, 1242.897 1244.095 now he's a French Huguenot. 1244.095 1245.128 So you would expect it. 1245.128 1246.262 (H) But it's still, 1246.262 1247.843 it comes in an interesting scene. 1247.843 1250.240 (H) .. Where he's in one of the camps. 1250.240 1251.527 It's in the second world war, 1251.527 1253.337 he's in the concentration camp in Germany, 1253.337 1255.122 ... (TSK) and it's very, 1255.122 1256.639 b- it's a beautifully written book. 1256.639 1257.391 And and he=, 1257.366 1257.519 uh, 1257.519 1258.692 he's in this scene, 1258.692 1259.979 (H) in this camp, 1259.979 1260.553 .. and, 1260.553 1261.471 ... you know, 1261.471 1263.383 (H) .. you just wanna give up, 1263.383 1263.791 a(Hx)_I mean, 1263.791 1264.581 (Hx)_every day is, 1264.581 1267.653 (H) you're hanging onto life ... by your .. fingernails. 1267.653 1269.018 (H) And u=m, 1269.018 1269.923 .. he said, 1269.923 1272.039 ... every day, 1272.039 1273.161 we just lived for one day. 1273.161 1274.397 We lived one day at a time. 1274.397 1275.876 And then he said it dawned on me, 1275.876 1277.431 (H) that um, 1277.431 1278.732 .. I I prayed, 1278.732 1281.154 I lifted up my= voice to the Lord, 1281.154 1282.135 we prayed together, 1282.135 1282.951 and I prayed, 1282.951 1283.295 and, 1283.295 1285.233 (H) and he said then it came to me. 1285.246 1288.790 .. (H) That .. what sustains me in this situation, 1288.790 1290.103 in this concentration camp, 1290.103 1292.015 .. (H) what sustains me, 1292.015 1293.201 .. is my=, 1293.201 1296.936 ... . 1296.936 1299.498

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