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@Comment:	Hundred Million Dollars
@Comment:	This is a city meeting, recorded in Chicago, Illinois. City
	officials interact with the public about a government grant which is
	being applied for, to fund community development. The city can only
	apply once, so are soliciting applications from various
	organizations and will submit the one they judge as best.
*PATT:	(..) I Just wanted to go over the changes in the schedule ? 4270_7282
*PATT:	(..) &=in Um originally 7415_8443
	(.) we were going to require the um 8443_10899
	(..) request fo:r statement of interest and qualifications to come (.) back to 11068_15726
	(..) uh 16234_17044
	(..) twenty North Clark Street 17044_18387
	on April seventh . 18387_19718
*PATT:	(..) &=in Um 19718_20286
	(.) but the 20286_21133
	(..) um 21133_22004
	(..) coordinating council felt that it was wise to give the community 22004_25718
	(..) more time 26177_27109
	(..) a weekend 26988_27786
	(.) two days 27786_28645
	(..) to uh: (..) augment (.) whatever application ⌈ people were gonna ⌉ submit . 28645_33097
*AUD:	                                                  ⌊ &=THROAT ⌋ . 31815_32916
*PATT:	so the due date is changed from (.) April (.) seventh 33121_36690
	(.) to April eleventh 36690_37779
	at noon . 37779_38710
*PATT:	(..) And you can drop off those proposals at twenty North Clark Street . 38867_42738
*PATT:	(..) &=in Um 43053_43537
	the same (.) process (..) will continue 43537_46936
	(.) but for the changes in the time 46936_48678
	at the time that you (.) drop off your proposal 48678_51763
	(.) you will be scheduled for a uh (.) public (.) meeting 51763_55210
	(..) where you will be given a chance and an opportunity to present your &=in uh proposal . 55210_60073
*PATT:	(.) &=in Um right now we're looking at April fifteenth 60460_62952
	which is a Friday 62952_64102
	and s- +/. 64102_64561
*PATT:	(.) and April sixteenth 64561_65916
	(.) as the uh date for that public presentation 65916_69267
	(.) and we don't know 69267_70513
	(.) where that will be held 70513_72025
	or what time that will be held 72025_73501
	but we'll make sure that everyone gets noticed about that . 73501_76078
*PATT:	(..) &=in During April seventeen to the twenty-third 76876_79779
	the coordinating council will identify the empowerments on location 79779_83759
	&=in a:nd uh: 84364_85852
	(.) during the week of uh A⌈pril twen⌉ty-fifth . 85937_88284
*AUD:	                           ⌊ &=COUGH ⌋ . 87280_87969
*PATT:	there will be a city-wide meeting to present the selected empowerment zone 88284_92687
	&=in uh to go over: how that zone was selected 92687_95808
	(..) a:nd uh: 95808_97671
	(..) the place date and time for that meeting (.) will also be announced . 97901_101530
*PATT:	(.) &=in (.) Um 102425_103066
	(.) from May second to June third 103066_104965
	the strategic plan 104965_106417
	(.) for the empower⌈ment zone ⌉ . 106417_108123
*AUD:	                   ⌊ &=COUGH ⌋ . 107107_107724
*PATT:	(..) will be developed 108159_109369
	(.) with the community 109369_110796
	(..) a:nd during the week of June sixth 111679_114062
	um 114062_114462
	a public presentation of 114413_116070
	(.) on the uh empowerment zone application 116070_118986
	and the strategic plan will presented- be presented again 118986_121575
	&=in the place date and time (.) will be announced . 121877_124538
*PATT:	&=in um 124538_125337
	(..) and on June thirtieth 125567_126873
	that's the drop dead date 126873_128155
	(.) um 128155_128663
	when we will send the application 128663_130393
	(.) for selection by HUD as an empowerment zone for Chicago . 130393_133817
*PATT:	(..) &=in Um 134180_135087
	(..) is- if there are no other questions 135268_137156
	um 137156_137446
	we can 137446_137930
	(..) yes sir . 138148_138837
*GRAN:	(..) &{l=X I have &}l=X a question . 139200_140265
*PATT:	&=tsk Yeah . 140265_140821
*GRAN:	(.) Worst case scenario . 140821_142127
*GRAN:	(..) After we submit em 142926_144172
	(..) the- uh the proposal application 144172_146990
	(..) uh 148865_149180
	human beings being what they are 149180_150982
	(.) organizations being what they are . 150982_152749
*GRAN:	(..) what (.) will the coordinating council 153970_156245
	what does the city propose to do 156245_158313
	(..) when there's a hue and cry . 158616_160660
*GRAN:	(..) from those who attempting (..) to empower themselves 161180_164483
	(..) a:nd combined with coupled with those who are seeking more power . 165451_169225
*GRAN:	(..) Who: say: unfair 169733_171789
	(..) this: (..) wasn't done right 172080_174729
	(..) according to (..) our perspective 174935_178261
	(..) or this that and the other . 178419_179931
*PATT:	(..) that ⌈ would be the ⌉ worst case scenar⌈2io ⌉2 . 180898_182931
*GRAN:	          ⌊ X ⌋ +/. 181104_181527
*GRAN:	                                            ⌊2 worst ⌋2 case scenario . 182604_183802
*AUD:	&=COUGH &=COUGH . 183826_184552
*GRAN:	What can (.) the city 184552_186233
	what +/. 186233_186753
*GRAN:	(..) what can the coordinating council 187020_188882
	(..) or what's gonna be p- +/. 188882_190092
*GRAN:	(.) be in place 190092_191338
	(..) to: (..) listen to all the criticisms . 191628_194774
*AUD:	&=COUGH . 194665_195354
*GRAN:	(.) all of the: (..) disappointments at 195354_198463
	(.) not being selected 198463_199975
	(..) so that 199975_201004
	(..) let's say optimistically 202286_203931
	(.) there are some good ideas . 203931_205298
*GRAN:	(..) s:ome oversight 205867_207137
	or something that can be corrected 207137_208903
	(..) hopefully that's (..) of minor proportion . 209242_211867
*GRAN:	(..) So that 211867_212689
	(..) we can still keep the city 212689_214552
	(..) running smoothly 215387_216839
	(..) and becoming more and more beautiful . 217032_219089
*PATT:	(..) I don't know if that issue has been discussed by the um coordinating council ? 219391_223383
*PATT:	I think it's a legitimate issue 223383_225307
	(..) u:m 225307_226129
	(..) I w- y- would be willing to take that back 226129_228791
	to have them discuss that 228791_230109
	but 230109_230460
	(.) I mean the worst thing would be for 230460_232795
	(.) HUD not to recognize that this is a c- collaborative effort 232795_236521
	a partnership 236521_237343
	between the community 237343_238408
	the city 238541_239000
	the business community and the neighborhoods 239000_240996
	&=in and 240996_241613
	(.) I mean it wouldn't bode well 241819_243501
	(..) for Chicago to get an empowerment zone if 243501_246210
	(.) if everyone (.) were not supportive and on board . 246210_249283
*PATT:	(..) So 249525_250202
	(.) I mean that answers your question . 250202_251581
*PATT:	I don't know: what the coordinating council's role 251581_253843
	(.) in that case would be . 253843_255040
*PATT:	(..) But we'll (.) definitely take that message back . 255371_257928
*PATT:	(..) &{l=X on that ⌈ question I- &}l=X ⌉ +... 258536_259448
*GRAN:	                   ⌊ May I propose ⌋ that the coordinating council consider 258868_261770
	(..) my (.) individual worst case scenario 262807_266193
	(..) and any other worst case scenarios 266303_268183
	that they (.) collectively &{l=X might come up with &}l=X . 268183_270449
*GRAN:	(..) Notwithstanding Paul XX's suggestion 271624_274443
	(..) that the empowerment zone (..) moneys 274443_277000
	a hundred million 277000_278078
	(..) CTA green line 278078_279474
	three-hundred million 279474_280842
	(..) be utilized 280842_282072
	(.) effectively and efficiently 282072_283523
	(..) to get a bigger bang for the buck . 284131_285845
*PATT:	(..) kay XX . 288250_288886
*ROSE:	(.) I just wanted to say that 288886_290185
	(.) there's also some other opportunities for 290185_292465
	(..) um 292741_293515
	(..) organizations that are new 293833_295644
	(.) in the networking process 295644_297109
	and I think that the more meetings you can attend 297109_298988
	and the more (..) organizations 298988_301186
	(..) that hear your voice . 301186_302789
*AUD:	(.) &=THROAT . 302789_303507
*ROSE:	the better . 303507_304420
*ROSE:	(..) There's uh 304710_305871
	(..) a networking meeting going on 306161_308027
	(.) on Friday . 308027_309188
*ROSE:	(..) at nine thirty in the morning 309188_310818
	at the &{l=X Mega &}l=X Center . 310666_311952
*ROSE:	(..) And it's (.) free 312200_313582
	(..) It's it's a +/. 313582_314591
*ROSE:	(..) it's (.) a group of assist and nonassist agencies 314591_318033
	(..) um 318489_319124
	(.) organizations like CRCC 319124_320852
	(..) the &{l=X Mega &}l=X Center 321377_322538
	the COBCU 322538_324072
	(.) Women's Business Development Center 324072_325979
	(..) Small Business Development Center 325979_328038
	I couldn't even begin to mention the list 328038_329669
	because there's about twenty-five different assist and nonassist agencies on there . 329669_333152
*ROSE:	(..) But I think that 333815_334714
	(.) anybody who belongs to an organization 334714_337326
	(..) um 337796_338570
	(..) that (..) has any type of (.) connection with the city 338570_341900
	(.) it would be good to +... 341900_342992
*GRAN:	Twenty-sixth where . 342992_343987
*ROSE:	(.) This one is Friday 343987_345300
	(..) at nine thirty at the &{l=X Mega &}l=X Center . 345300_347359
*GRAN:	(..) The &{l=X bank &}l=X 347732_348036
	right ? 348050_348285
*GRAN:	That's the &{l=X bank &}l=X . 348285_348838
*GRAN:	(.) X (.) ⌈ X ⌉ +... 348838_349432
*ROSE:	          ⌊ It's ⌋ one o five West Adams 349156_351091
	(..) on the seventh floor . 352183_353482
*GRAN:	(..) At what time ? 355817_356633
*ROSE:	(..) Nine . 357089_357545
*ROSE:	(..) I'm sorry 358153_358844
	it's nine to ten-thirty . 358844_360198
*GRAN:	(..) Okay 361553_361843
	I- I- (.) I- &{l=X I have a clue that she gave me 361843_364483
	but I'll (..) make arrangements on it &}l=X . 364483_366887
*ROSE:	Mhm . 366791_367164
*PATT:	(..) The lady in the yellow sweater ? 368532_370177
*KARE:	Actually I was +/. 370743_371642
*KARE:	(..) &{l=X again &}l=X I was trying to reframe his concerns in the best case scenario . 371918_375152
*KARE:	The Alderman spoke to 375152_376176
	(..) you feel that 376411_376985
	somehow the process that has been established . 376985_379028
*KARE:	(..) Um 379146_379543
	(.) could divide the city . 379543_380425
*KARE:	(.) Best case scenario would be the- ʔuh 380425_381967
	(.) provisions were made 381967_383230
	(..) such that the ideas that come out 383230_384978
	and the collaborations that come out of this process 384978_387569
	(..) and let them (.) continue . 387569_389199
*KARE:	Whether or not the city of Chicago is designated for anything . 389199_392016
*KARE:	(.) That- (.) that some reassurance of what comes out of it . 392016_394293
*AUD:	&=THROAT . 394293_394714
*KARE:	could be 394714_395286
	um 395286_395621
	somehow taken into consideration 395621_397154
	and continue to be fostered 397154_398589
	(..) from the city of Chicago . 398589_400036
*PATT:	(.) I think the city is +/. 400219_401536
*PATT:	(.) I mean I know the city is committed to that 401536_403468
	and I know that that has come up at the: i- um 403468_406177
	(.) &=tsk &=in the coordinating council meeting . 406371_408088
*PATT:	A desi:re to work 408120_409620
	(..) continue to work . 409610_411056
*AUD:	&=COUGH . 411056_411682
*PATT:	(..) with people 411736_413096
	(..) no matter what happens 413236_414553
	on this issue 414564_415298
	and there's been some discussion about 415363_417273
	&=in u:m 417273_418169
	(..) other kinds of funds 418730_420403
	that could be (.) put towards implementing 420403_422584
	uh 422584_423231
	(.) uh 423339_424106
	(.) areas +/. 424106_424958
*PATT:	(.) plans in areas that are not selected . 424958_426977
*AUD:	&=THROAT . 426977_427354
*PATT:	um 427354_427581
	so I think there is a commitment to do that 427581_429567
	and that +/. 429535_429934
*PATT:	(.) that certainly has been the spirit 429934_431650
	&=in of the um (.) coordinating council . 431650_433755
*PATT:	(..) &{l=X You 436648_437015
	and then Paul &}l=X . 437015_437554
*DAN:	Um 438375_439012
	(..) I've got uh (.) three questions (.) for you . 440652_442865
*DAN:	Uh 442865_443394
	(..) and I suppose your response is gonna just (.) kinda XX on there 443545_446071
	but first 446071_446621
	(.) um 446621_447204
	(.) does the city have any idea how many uh 447204_449741
	(..) requests they're gonna- +/. 449989_450993
*DAN:	how many proposals that they're gonna be getting ? 450993_452795
*DAN:	(..) Do you have ⌈ an estim⌉ation ? 452795_453896
*PATT:	                 ⌊ No ⌋ . 453076_453400
*DAN:	(..) So: . 454716_455429
*AUD:	&{l=X At least one &}l=X . 455429_456195
*DAN:	⌈ &=laugh &=lengthened &=laugh . 456282_457156
*MANY:	⌊ &=LAUGHTER ⌋ . 456994_458904
*DAN:	I'm sure . 457123_457717
*DAN:	U:m ⌉ 457955_458850
	⌈2 s- ⌉2 +... 458796_460038
*AUD:	⌊2 &=THROAT ⌋2 . 458796_460038
*DAN:	(..) Uh well that kind of leads into my- +/. 460038_461581
*DAN:	(.) my next question I think touches on (.) these people's questions 461581_464474
	as far as 464474_465132
	&=in ʔuh (..) it seemed like it would behoove us all 465823_467313
	if there were some kind of (.) consensus building process before 467313_470734
	(..) uh 471047_471609
	(.) &{l=X this went on and &}l=X 471609_472526
	(..) So what people are saying 472979_473778
	they're having community meetings 473778_475224
	(.) community organiza- +/. 475224_475958
*DAN:	(.) ʔuh +/. 475958_476217
*DAN:	(.) community 476217_476617
	uh 476617_477146
	(.) group meetings . 477394_478204
*DAN:	(.) But 478204_478722
	(..) uh 478873_479693
	(..) it's: +/. 479693_480438
*DAN:	(..) from what I understand of this empowerment zone (.) process 480729_483438
	the idea is to really (.) involve ⌈ things on a g- ⌉ grassroots level . 483438_487346
*AUD:	                                  ⌊ &=COUGH ⌋ . 485640_486137
*DAN:	(..) A:nd 487346_488242
	(..) my two concerns on par- +/. 488598_490023
*DAN:	as far as participation goes 490023_491307
	(.) are o:ne 491307_492354
	(..) that 492354_493390
	(..) a- and I voiced this concern with &{l=X elder Jarret &}l=X when 494297_496628
	(.) uh last month at the 496628_497988
	(..) uh 498388_499068
	(.) Washington- +/. 499068_499683
*DAN:	or uh Washington Library Center when they 499683_501345
	(..) uh 501680_502014
	XX &{l=X the person introduced &}l=X that . 502014_503558
*DAN:	(..) A:nd 503763_504616
	(..) that is 504940_505781
	(..) simply (..) throwing this out into the community and saying that 506397_509732
	(..) you expect the community to be able to respond 509905_512646
	(.) Community groups to be able to respond to you . 512646_514945
*DAN:	&=in Is 515140_515971
	(..) I think it- at l- at least 516974_518324
	not an effective 518324_519360
	(..) uh instrument for +/. 519576_520741
*DAN:	for getting this done . 520741_521778
*DAN:	(..) Uh . 521950_522835
*AUD:	(..) &=COUGH . 523332_523742
*PATT:	I think ⌈ that that's the expecta⌉tion of the +... 523904_526656
*DAN:	        ⌊ It doesn't +/. 524260_524789
*DAN:	it doesn't address ⌋ +... 524789_525847
*PATT:	⌈2 of the XXXX ⌉2 . 526613_528265
*DAN:	⌊2 ʔuh It doesn't address the fact ⌋2 that 526948_528621
	(.) one 528621_529215
	(.) community organizations 529215_530726
	(.) &=in um 531017_531632
	and many are- (.) of them being service providers 531632_534083
	(.) do not necessarily ha:ve 534083_536015
	(..) the same (..) goals ? 536015_538141
*DAN:	(.) in mind 538141_538918
	as community residents do . 539015_540300
*DAN:	They've got different agendas 540289_541530
	they've got different (.) priorities 541530_542998
	they've got different (.) purposes . 542998_544563
*DAN:	(..) than 545006_545891
	(..) members of the r- the community themselves . 545891_548082
*DAN:	(..) &=in U:m 548514_549323
	(..) the second thing is that 549723_551169
	(.) people who do not live 551169_552777
	(.) directly inside 552777_554310
	&=in the areas that are gonna be part of the empowerment zo:nes 554310_557634
	(..) they've got an overriding concern in this because 557937_560009
	&=in as Mister Pollack said 560009_561617
	A hundred million dollars is just gonna be a drop in the bucket . 561617_564175
*DAN:	(..) To be able to make these things work 564175_565751
	and especially to make them work over a ten year process 565751_568093
	&=in that this is calling for 568266_569820
	(..) there're gonna be a lot of community (..) resources 569820_573210
	(.) s- +/. 573339_573641
*DAN:	(.) uh 573641_574084
	(..) from the federal government 574084_575142
	(..) from the state 575142_575973
	(..) county 575973_576642
	(..) and city 576793_577473
	that are gonna need to be (.) marshalled 577473_579146
	they're gonna need to be 579146_580085
	(.) reallocated to this area . 580085_582179
*DAN:	(..) And to be able to have a consensus 582449_584154
	not just within (.) the empowerment zone 584154_586054
	but within the city itself 586054_587371
	if these services . 587371_588407
*DAN:	(..) Are gonna be provided and maintained 588407_590307
	(..) over the ten years 590652_591915
	(..) through different administrations 592606_594387
	(..) through different aldermen 594657_595952
	(..) political processes 596341_597625
	(.) involved 597625_598618
	(..) these people are not being brought into the decision-making process beforehand . 599255_602871
*DAN:	(..) And I think this speaks to these people's concern 603022_605429
	&=in ⌈ that ⌉ +... 605429_605904
*PATT:	     ⌊ These people ⌋ meaning who . 605429_606756
*PATT:	(.) The +... 606756_607145
*DAN:	I I heard several people 607145_608483
	this (.) this r- +/. 608483_609271
*DAN:	(..) I don't know their names . 609271_610156
*DAN:	So I'll just have to +/. 610156_610869
*DAN:	(.) woman in yellow 610869_611840
	(..) gentleman here in the glasses 611894_613297
	that 613297_614183
	(..) there's gonna be ʔuh uh 614776_616028
	(.) uh earlier that very first speaker 616471_618209
	gentleman uh 618209_619137
	Ed Smith . 619137_620044
*DAN:	(..) Uh 620044_621015
	(..) that you're gonna be receiving a number of (..) proposals 621468_625376
	(..) and 625505_626358
	(..) you say you don't know how many 626833_627847
	I don't know how you're gonna have 627847_629067
	(..) twenty-eight (.) thirty-two people that you said 629725_631971
	on a coordinating council read 631971_633385
	(..) maybe a hundred proposals 633385_635155
	(..) within a week's time 635155_636666
	(..) and be able to (..) arrive at one (..) selected empowerment zone 636666_641372
	(..) it seems to me that it- (.) be much more beneficial 641739_644761
	(.) if the entire community as a whole 644804_646952
	(..) was brought into this process 646952_648496
	(.) and 648496_649057
	(..) this is what I'm bringing up is 649057_650547
	the idea of participation . 650547_652101
*DAN:	(..) True community-based citizen participation . 652101_654929
*DAN:	(..) would involve ongoing series of meeting 654929_657552
	(..) that I would think that the (..) coordinating council would be (..) promoting 657638_662096
	(.) ⌈ would be organizing and directing on an ⌉ ʔuh ongoing ʔuh even nightly basis . 662096_666025
*AUD:	    ⌊ &=COUGH &=COUGH &=COUGH ⌋ . 662096_664125
*PATT:	(.) That's not ⌈2 exact⌉2ly grassroot (..) planning . 666122_668669
*DAN:	               ⌊2 to be ⌋2 +... 666359_667093
*PATT:	either . 668734_669241
*DAN:	Right . 668917_669338
*PATT:	&=in um 669446_670180
	(..) grassroot planning 670429_671540
	is when people get out in the community 671540_673354
	and organize . 673354_674088
*DAN:	(..) But ⌈ they need a forum . 674357_675296
*PATT:	         ⌊ and do the work ⌋ . 674519_675685
*DAN:	they need ⌉ +/. 675275_675750
*DAN:	&=in if this woman here ⌈2 today did ⌉2 not speak ⌈3 up ⌉3 . 675750_678545
*PATT:	                        ⌊2 a:nd ⌋2 . 676732_677455
*PATT:	                                                  ⌊3 Let me ⌋3 answer your ⌈4 question . 677671_679020
*DAN:	                                                                           ⌊4 All these people here would not even know a meeting was going on ⌋4 . 678535_680963
*PATT:	Let me (.) try to respond to your ques⌉4tion sir . 679031_681848
*PATT:	(..) So: 682291_683165
	(.) ʔuh what you're suggesting is not a grassroot 683165_685594
	in my opinion 685594_686403
	a grassroot (..) process . 686403_688702
*PATT:	&=in Secondly 688972_689825
	the the the reality is 689825_691487
	(..) we only have 691487_693128
	(..) till June thirtieth to submit an application . 694024_696895
*PATT:	(.) A really +/. 696895_698114
*PATT:	(..) a true strategic planning process 698168_700802
	grassroot 700802_701730
	(.) takes many more months than that . 701730_703803
*PATT:	(..) Many ⌈ more years than ⌉ we have . 703803_705843
*DAN:	          ⌊ XX ⌋ . 704245_704774
*PATT:	(.) Okay ? 705994_706598
*PATT:	&=in So 706782_707041
	we have to do the best that we (.) can do 707041_709847
	given the time that we have . 709847_711412
*DAN:	(..) And all I'm saying is 714704_715514
	I'm saying that 715514_716302
	(.) I don't believe a forum 716302_717651
	is being presented for community groups to +/. 717651_719637
*DAN:	(.) I mean 719637_719918
	some people are finding out about this for the first time tonight 719918_722076
	some people are finding out about meetings 722076_723415
	that are going on with other groups 723415_724494
	for the first time tonight 724494_725563
	&=in this is not being promoted by the city 725617_727333
	this is not being &=in publicized as a ⌈ forum (.) as a ⌉ +... 727333_729729
*PATT:	                                       ⌊ It has been pro⌋moted 729071_730226
	it has been publicized . 730226_731618
*PATT:	⌈ I don't know ⌉ +... 731618_732514
*DAN:	⌊ I'll tell you right now 731618_732287
	that the ⌋ leading 732287_733010
	&=ex onprofit 733010_734230
	(.) affordable housing provider on the West Side 734230_736076
	isn't even involved with this . 736076_736864
*DAN:	He said he hasn't even XXX +/. 736864_738137
*DAN:	PRIDE . 738137_738623
*DAN:	(.) has not even been contacted 738623_739659
	by those groups on the West Side . 739659_740911
*PATT:	Well 740847_741041
	let me tell you . 741084_741710
*PATT:	I've worked with PRIDE 741710_742930
	(.) and I had a meeting with PRIDE last week 742930_745175
	they know about it . 745175_745963
*DAN:	I didn't say they didn't know about it 745963_747161
	I said they're not being +/. 747145_748034
*DAN:	they're not being contacted by y- +/. 748034_749982
*DAN:	(..) as far as being brought into a network 749982_751931
	(..) for this . 752559_753304
*DAN:	I'm I'm sorry 753304_753879
	I'm not trying to be confrontational . 753788_754965
*DAN:	Okay 754965_755135
	I'm trying to raise (.) issues and concerns . 755135_756809
*DAN:	Alright ? 756809_757136
*PATT:	Although ⌈ I do think . 757136_758313
*DAN:	         ⌊ The second +/. 757502_757946
*DAN:	my second qu- ⌋ +... 757946_758613
*PATT:	that the ⌉ organization 758404_759542
	has a responsibility . 759542_761190
*PATT:	(.) If they're ⌈ interested ⌉ in this . 761190_762720
*DAN:	               ⌊ Undoubtedly ⌋ . 761595_762288
*DAN:	⌈2 Undoubtedly ⌉2 . 762497_763295
*PATT:	⌊2 And they care ⌋2 about empowerment of th- of their ⌈3 (.) constituency ⌉3 . 762615_765871
*DAN:	                                                      ⌊3 Undoubtedly ⌋3 . 764877_765688
*PATT:	to get involved in the process 765688_767192
	and find a way to make that ⌈ happen XX ⌉ . 767061_768317
*DAN:	                            ⌊ M- my second ⌋ question would be on the process 768108_770501
	ʔuh the city obviously's got its own priorities 770501_772724
	it's got 772724_773299
	(..) u:m 773299_774058
	(..) funds already allocated in budget 774058_775588
	it's got areas designated that they would like to see worked on 775588_778321
	(..) a:nd 778491_779289
	(..) my question as far as the process is c- +/. 779537_781473
*DAN:	way the selection goes 781473_782689
	(.) are um 782689_783957
	(..) what +/. 785200_785814
*DAN:	w- which is gonna drive which . 785814_787410
*DAN:	(..) How much weight are gonna be given to: 787763_790339
	(..) u:m 790522_791294
	(..) proposals 791294_792196
	which (.) dovetail into (.) existing programs 792196_795256
	that the city has 795256_796224
	or 796224_796812
	(.) that the city is intending on implementing in certain areas 796812_799872
	(.) and how much is the city willing to bend and say 799872_802174
	(..) I will g- +/. 802331_802945
*DAN:	we are gonna forego (..) these uh (.) scheduled or proposed projects 802945_807483
	to be able to dovetail into (.) empowerment zones . 807483_810439
*GRAN:	(..) What's being said 813394_814336
	Patty is 814336_815107
	(..) when is the city going to present 815487_817370
	say for instance 817370_818207
	(..) its overall plan 818664_819920
	for conducting the city . 819920_821227
*GRAN:	So everyone can see 821227_822640
	(.) their seat 822640_823869
	(.) in the auditorium 823869_825255
	(.) or their (.) place around the table 825255_827413
	(..) and how long will they have to wait for their turn for development 827805_830552
	(.) when will their interests be served 830552_832409
	(..) so 832605_833272
	(..) this empowerment zone 833272_834697
	it simply seems to me 834697_835599
	is opening a Pandora's Box . 835599_837129
*PATT:	(..) Go ahead . 840163_840909
*PATT:	(..) Well to +/. 841406_841903
*PATT:	let me answer your question in terms of the um 841903_844492
	(..) uh 845133_845774
	(..) proposed plans 846794_848075
	(.) I mean right now 848075_849108
	(..) the: (..) um coordinating council 849108_851907
	is making the selection 851907_853293
	based on the information 853293_855006
	(..) tha:t is received from the community . 855451_857779
*PATT:	(..) And obviously there ʔuh there are (..) other issues to look at 858027_862866
	(.) for example 862866_863990
	(..) um 864043_864513
	organizations that may be involved in (.) um (.) current work 864513_868842
	(..) their ability 868920_869980
	new organizations 869980_871248
	new ideas 871248_872124
	&=in I mean all that is getting- +/. 872124_873576
*PATT:	(.) is thrown in the pot . 873576_874871
*PATT:	&=in and I don't think that any (.) community that has an existing plan 874871_878990
	(.) has a leg up 878990_880166
	(..) o:n any one else who has a new idea that may not be part of a plan . 880762_885278
*DAN:	(..) Uh 885582_886191
	(.) are they explaining the uh- +/. 886403_887714
*DAN:	for example I +/. 887714_888324
*DAN:	(.) don't know if Londa White is here 888324_889476
	s- uh theoretical- +/. 889476_890641
*DAN:	(..) at a uh 890641_891661
	(..) a (.) uh community meeting last month 890641_894680
	in which uh a lot of uh selection criteria were 894680_897276
	(..) uh 897316_898203
	(..) drawn up 898587_899355
	I: was wondering 899355_900123
	if is the council (..) gonna absorb that into the ⌈ selection process also ⌉ . 900123_903527
*PATT:	                                                  ⌊ The council 902414_903196
	has ⌋ uh 903196_904004
	received a copy of that 904004_905421
	and the council has seen portions of uh 905421_908334
	(..) of the Seaway principles 908334_910281
	&=in some of those principles have been +/. 910281_912665
*PATT:	(.) are ⌈ included ⌉ in what we have tonight . 912784_915101
*AUD:	        ⌊ &=COUGH ⌋ . 913009_913578
*PATT:	(.) Others are really principles 915141_916969
	fo:r the zo:ne itself 916969_918796
	&=in and how the makeup of the zone will be . 918796_920822
*PATT:	(..) And that is going to be handed out to the uh (.) Coordinating Council 921273_925272
	this Thursday . 925272_926040
*DAN:	(..) Uh 926424_926808
	(.) m- m- my third question is on the final program ? 926808_929510
*DAN:	(..) I- (.) think this gentleman again spoke very 929510_931854
	(.) very adequately to it 931854_933178
	(.) u:m 933205_933840
	(.) it seems to me 934118_935218
	again 935218_935655
	(..) this idea of building consensus . 936118_937787
*DAN:	(..) That 938012_938542
	(.) if we're able to make this +/. 938542_939349
*DAN:	a program like this work 939349_940621
	over (.) such a long time . 940621_942025
*DAN:	(..) That the city +/. 942197_943071
*DAN:	(.) and in fact it's: stated in the uh 943071_945375
	(..) uh: 945375_946143
	proposal 946461_946898
	the uh (.) HUD (..) application proposal that 946898_949957
	(..) the uh 950209_951268
	(..) governing body 951838_952950
	(..) making the application 953083_954354
	(.) must provide a:ssurance and evidence 954354_956340
	that this uh 956340_957387
	(..) uh empowerment zone plan 958142_959757
	is gonna be adhered to and implemented 959757_961214
	and it seems to me that 961214_962499
	(..) one of the (..) most fundawen- (.) fundamental and best ways to have this done 962499_967173
	(..) would be for the city to come up with a com⌈prehensive plan ⌉ . 967173_969941
*AUD:	                                                ⌊ &=COUGH &=COUGH ⌋ . 968974_969848
*DAN:	(.) that follows guidelines 970047_971623
	that would (..) ensure 971623_974590
	(..) that what's happening in the empowerment zone 974590_976377
	is indeed the seed program that's gonna be followed 976377_979013
	and be able to be dis- (..) distributed to other areas of the city and 979013_982535
	(..) and built on in other areas of the city 982641_984601
	(.) does the city have (.) any 984601_985912
	(..) uh 985912_986892
	(..) plans 987528_988150
	uh any any (..) hope of 988150_990296
	(.) coming up with a comprehensive plan 990296_991845
	for developing the city ? 991845_992997
*PATT:	(..) We do not have a comprehensive plan for (.) the city of Chicago . 994679_998824
*DAN:	(..) Does the city have +... 1000210_1001165
*PATT:	(.) We have +... 1001165_1001920
*DAN:	+, any ⌈ hopes of ⌉ . 1001920_1003365
*PATT:	+,     ⌊ policies ⌋ for development 1002415_1004575
	(.) and we have been identifying &=in places 1004575_1007790
	(..) that have plans 1007982_1009313
	(.) and (.) trying to get things done . 1009313_1011140
*PATT:	&=in A comprehensive plan 1011140_1012809
	requires 1012697_1013362
	&=in uh 1013362_1014276
	(.) the infusion of (.) many many dollars 1014513_1017366
	(.) much more than is available 1017366_1019543
	(..) you know 1020164_1020739
	(.) within the city budget 1020739_1022171
	to implement a plan 1022171_1023265
	(..) a:nd 1023468_1023965
	at this point 1023965_1024788
	we are looking at 1024777_1025724
	ways to be strategic 1025724_1027473
	(..) in how we invest our money 1027574_1029638
	(..) and the empowerment zone is an ʔe- is an example 1029638_1032797
	(..) of an of an area where we are going to (.) do some strategic planning along with the community 1033000_1038335
	which will lead to implementation 1038335_1039812
	and investing in our plan . 1039812_1041121
*DAN:	(..) Correct . 1041572_1041899
*DAN:	Would you say it's only 1041899_1042869
	(..) we only have policy guidelines . 1042869_1044426
*DAN:	and when- +/. 1044426_1044843
*DAN:	(.) when administrations change 1044843_1046264
	(.) policies change . 1046264_1047392
*DAN:	(..) What I'm talking about is that 1047584_1048814
	(..) cities that we are competing against 1048814_1050336
	Seattle 1050336_1051137
	(.) San Antonio 1051137_1051803
	Minneapolis 1051803_1052524
	(.) they've got 1052649_1053562
	(..) comprehensive plans 1053743_1054826
	for the development of their cities . 1054826_1056168
*DAN:	(..) And 1056438_1056935
	⌈ that ⌉ +... 1056935_1057476
*PATT:	⌊ some of ⌋ them do and some of them do not . 1057036_1059179
*DAN:	The ones that I just mentioned do . 1059179_1060533
*PATT:	ʔuh . 1060533_1060916
*DAN:	(.) Alright ? 1060916_1061413
*PATT:	&=ex . 1061413_1061627
*DAN:	And 1061627_1062214
	(.) my ⌈ point is . 1062383_1063398
*PATT:	       ⌊ Some of them do . 1062653_1063387
*DAN:	that ⌉ . 1063387_1063714
*PATT:	and ⌋ some of them do not . 1063477_1064571
*DAN:	(..) The ones that I just mentioned do . 1065282_1066838
*DAN:	(..) And 1067222_1067718
	(.) my +/. 1067718_1068293
*DAN:	(..) my point is 1068293_1069635
	(..) that 1069624_1070075
	it seems to us that 1070075_1071248
	it- it- (.) it seems to me that 1071248_1072410
	it would give us: as (.) Chicago 1072410_1074903
	&=in a much better footing with government 1075038_1076775
	if we said 1076775_1077238
	that we had a comprehensive plan 1077125_1078490
	that was gonna ensure 1078490_1079674
	(.) that these things are going to be . 1079674_1081197
*PATT:	(.) Well sir . 1081276_1081840
*DAN:	⌈ XX XX X ⌉ . 1081840_1083069
*PATT:	⌊ considering that our plan ⌋ is due June thirtieth 1081840_1084389
	&=in and considering that between now and then 1084389_1086566
	we will not have a comprehensive plan 1086566_1088359
	for the city of Chicago 1088359_1089747
	&=in u:m 1089882_1090706
	(..) I'm not quite sure where to go with your question . 1091631_1094089
*AUD:	(.) &=COUGH &=COUGH . 1094744_1095849
*PATT:	(..) Oh I'm s- +/. 1099504_1099977
*PATT:	(.) ⌈ I'm sorry ⌉ . 1099977_1100902
*DERE:	    ⌊ Oh ⌋ . 1100169_1100372
*BERN:	    ⌊ (.) go ahead ⌋ . 1100372_1100868
*BERN:	⌈ go ahead ⌉ . 1100868_1101455
*PATT:	⌊ (.) &{l=X Bernie &}l=X ⌋ . 1100868_1101444
*BERN:	I- ha- +/. 1101444_1101974
*BERN:	(.) ⌈ &{l=X I just ⌉ wanted to make a friendly (.) remind &}l=X . 1101974_1103542
*PATT:	X   ⌊ &=ex ⌋ 1101974_1102707
	I'm sorry Derek . 1103564_1104681
*DERE:	Um 1104546_1104715
	(.) My name's Derek Williams 1104828_1105933
	I'm +/. 1106080_1106226
*DERE:	(.) I'm with the HORN association of men 1106226_1108121
	(.) a:nd uh 1108121_1108978
	(..) ʔI I think we need to recognize that uh 1109452_1111764
	(..) uh this is an opportunity 1112306_1113513
	and it's not a threat . 1113513_1114505
*DERE:	(..) Uh 1114776_1115250
	(..) consensus do not build themselves . 1115796_1117995
*DERE:	(.) A:nd 1118382_1118913
	and if we just be perfectly honest with each other 1118913_1121091
	(..) the only reason that we're all in this room is because we hear:d 1121577_1124363
	(.) about a hundred million dollars . 1124363_1125756
*MANY:	&=LAUGHTER . 1125822_1126496
*DERE:	And that's what everybody's worried about . 1126342_1128143
*DERE:	(..) Uh 1128563_1129238
	(..) it's impossible for any city to have a comprehensive plan 1129614_1132620
	because we don't have comprehensive people . 1132620_1134400
*DERE:	(..) First of all . 1134588_1135273
*DERE:	(..) And I think we just need to 1135694_1137263
	(..) given the information that's out there 1137838_1139651
	(..) we need to try to make it as meaningful as we can to our constituents . 1139651_1143288
*DERE:	(..) Uh: 1143509_1144294
	(..) be honestly speaking with you 1144493_1146505
	(..) uh I come from an organization with (..) five hundred members 1146505_1150153
	(..) and empowerment zone has (.) absolutely no meaning 1150661_1153845
	(..) to just about eighty percent of our population . 1154121_1156310
*DERE:	(..) For the simple reason 1156830_1158311
	(..) we get caught up in 1158455_1160057
	(..) in in all of the rhetoric 1160057_1161660
	(.) u:m 1161660_1162257
	(.) we we constantly challenge each other 1162545_1164214
	and I- +/. 1164214_1164369
*DERE:	I don't think this is the time for that . 1164369_1165949
*DERE:	(..) I I think we should be trying to focus o:n 1166414_1169122
	(..) the information that's available 1169476_1171112
	(..) and and and meet the challenge . 1171333_1172748
*DERE:	And I and I think we can do that . 1172748_1174163
*DERE:	(.) And in +/. 1174163_1174450
*DERE:	(.) and again 1174450_1174926
	this is an opportunity 1174926_1175965
	(..) to (.) m:eet the challenge . 1176506_1178397
*MANY:	(.) &=APPLAUSE . 1179259_1183426
*PATT:	(..) Thanks Derek 1183426_1184156
	that's why I guess you're sitting in the front row . 1184156_1186533
*PATT:	&=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh 1186533_1187362
	&=in Um Paul . 1187362_1188357
*PAUL:	(..) Derek I +/. 1198173_1198958
*PAUL:	(..) I appreciate following you . 1198958_1200815
*DERE:	(.) Thanks . 1200959_1201423
*PAUL:	(..) Well see I'd've been kinda (..) frustrated 1201423_1204231
	trying to say what you said 1204231_1205303
	some of it . 1205303_1205789
*PAUL:	(..) I'd like to 1207492_1208199
	just for a couple minutes 1208199_1209636
	(..) set the record straight 1210576_1211902
	o:n what empowerment zones are 1211902_1214224
	(..) and what they are not 1214799_1216136
	(..) according to my own (..) understanding . 1216866_1219596
*PAUL:	(..) The empowerment zones 1220945_1222913
	(..) were (..) implemented . 1224715_1227268
*PAUL:	(..) under the Clinton administration . 1229026_1230828
*PAUL:	(..) They did not start (..) under the Clinton administration . 1232220_1236885
*PAUL:	(..) They started in the state of Illinois 1238002_1240390
	(..) as enterprise zones 1240920_1242269
	back in the eighties . 1242269_1243319
*PAUL:	(..) The difference between (.) empowerment zones 1244557_1247487
	(..) and enterprise zones 1248095_1249498
	is that the federal government 1249498_1250947
	(..) for twelve years 1251488_1252704
	(.) Congress never did approve 1252704_1254683
	(..) enterprise zones 1256208_1257612
	(.) at the federal level . 1257612_1259060
*PAUL:	(..) By the time they were approved 1260100_1261957
	(..) Congress 1263228_1263924
	in its wisdom 1263924_1265339
	(..) attached (..) funding . 1265881_1268026
*PAUL:	(..) criteria . 1268855_1269960
*PAUL:	(..) and shifted the name from enterprise zones 1270535_1273431
	(..) to empowerment zones . 1273752_1275178
*PAUL:	(..) For the record . 1276206_1277300
*PAUL:	(..) I do not live (.) in CHA . 1278207_1281048
*PAUL:	(..) I am not (..) homeless . 1282264_1284751
*PAUL:	(..) I do not (.) transport myself 1285591_1288377
	(..) on CTA properties . 1288786_1290698
*PAUL:	(..) I'm a veteran 1291638_1292931
	(.) so I do not go (..) to county hospitals . 1293075_1296015
*PAUL:	(..) I abide by the law 1296679_1298480
	(..) so I'm not in (.) county jail . 1298690_1301332
*PAUL:	(..) I have (..) attended (.) several colleges 1304262_1307534
	(..) I think successfully 1309667_1311315
	(..) they think (.) unsuccessfully 1311657_1313724
	(..) so I do not need (.) the public education system 1315338_1318975
	(..) in Chicago . 1319163_1320457
*PAUL:	(..) But 1322214_1323264
	(..) I do know 1323508_1324779
	who &uz [: does] (.) need em . 1325287_1327498
*PAUL:	(..) The homeless 1328184_1329300
	(..) and people not in (.) public housing . 1329698_1332539
*PAUL:	(..) Public housing 1333423_1334816
	(..) because one 1335048_1336231
	(.) we're getting ready 1336275_1337027
	to tear them all down . 1337027_1338431
*PAUL:	(..) What are we gonna do with it . 1339415_1340863
*PAUL:	(..) The: city (.) has no right 1341725_1344688
	(..) &{l=X would be in a fight &}l=X 1345384_1346832
	(..) &{l=X we need &}l=X 1347717_1348877
	(..) to try and tell me 1349375_1350944
	(..) what my block needs 1351232_1352967
	(..) When my block decides 1353719_1355587
	(.) what it needs 1355587_1356859
	(..) and presents its plan 1357378_1359213
	(..) to the city 1359213_1360385
	(..) then the city 1360385_1361667
	(.) can take its logical 1361667_1363480
	(..) legal 1363480_1364619
	(..) jurisprudence 1364619_1366023
	(..) course 1366222_1367205
	(..) of identifying 1367338_1368864
	(..) what (.) resources it has 1368864_1371207
	(.) and make em available . 1371362_1372898
*PAUL:	(..) The empowerment zones 1373617_1375397
	(..) what are 1375806_1376878
	(.) by legislation 1376878_1378525
	(..) to be planned 1378702_1380261
	(..) by 1380261_1381399
	(..) with 1381399_1382151
	(..) and for 1382151_1383378
	(..) those most in need of empowering . 1383378_1386473
*PAUL:	(..) It don't mention 1387402_1388795
	(..) those agencies 1388795_1390154
	(.) most in need . 1390154_1391326
*PAUL:	This is not the entitlement programs . 1391326_1393592
*PAUL:	&=in See the entitlement programs is what has turned the West Side 1393758_1396920
	&=in into a damn desert (.) of oasis and poverty . 1396920_1400468
*PAUL:	(..) Because the West Side was planned (.) for . 1402115_1405432
*PAUL:	(..) CHA was planned (.) for . 1406371_1409345
*PAUL:	(..) The city (.) has put together in a aggregate sum 1409853_1413424
	&=in the map that is about two pages 1413424_1415679
	&=in that shows you where the poorest folks live . 1415745_1418233
*PAUL:	(..) If you are an agency 1420112_1421693
	(..) that is involved in those areas 1421869_1424478
	(..) take the opportunity to find out what those people need 1424954_1428480
	(.) and deliver the proposal . 1428480_1430083
*PAUL:	(..) If you are an agency that is outside of those areas 1430790_1434129
	of the census track 1434129_1435522
	that each of you have 1435522_1437025
	(..) then 1439380_1440131
	(.) cha:nge your location 1440131_1442209
	(..) do like Reagan said 1442762_1444575
	(..) and move with your feet (.) into the area . 1444708_1447538
*PAUL:	(..) This is no 1448411_1449340
	you know 1449340_1449715
	three card &{l=X Molly &}l=X here . 1449715_1451186
*PAUL:	(..) We al:ready know 1451396_1453109
	(.) where the most &{l=MRC empower:less (.) people (.) are &}l=MRC . 1453109_1457387
*PAUL:	(..) Get busy . 1458957_1459885
*PAUL:	(..) Patty asked a question earlier . 1460770_1462583
*PAUL:	(..) I have (.) chose not to do it 1462903_1465214
	(..) but out of necessity 1465711_1467270
	(..) I'm gonna ask you to (.) walk through this 1467878_1470641
	(..) this is where the poor folks live . 1470807_1472985
*PAUL:	(..) This is where your tax dollars are going . 1473836_1476224
*PAUL:	&=in And this is why you get upset 1476334_1478103
	every time the city launches a project 1478103_1480336
	&=in because you say 1480336_1481353
	(.) it comes in over budget . 1481353_1483078
*PAUL:	(..) This is where the state (.) has roads going on . 1484813_1488030
*PAUL:	(..) This is where county hospital has roads going on . 1488804_1491899
*PAUL:	&=in So as far as I'm concerned 1491877_1493690
	&=in if the city did anything more than what it was doing 1493690_1496763
	&=in I would file a grievance with the Department of Justice 1496763_1499736
	to say that they were in violation (.) of the legislation . 1499736_1502611
*PAUL:	(..) The legislation says that 1503009_1504866
	(.) tho:se who have nothing 1504866_1506789
	(..) are either to be courted (.) by those who have something 1508293_1512350
	&=in or left alone . 1512350_1513941
*PAUL:	(..) so that they can develop 1514317_1515964
	(.) their own plan 1515964_1517114
	and be responsible for their success 1517114_1519424
	(..) or their failure . 1519656_1520850
*PAUL:	(..) That to me (.) is the empowerment zone . 1521293_1523647
*PAUL:	(..) Anything else 1524111_1525117
	(.) is a contradiction 1525128_1526466
	(..) Malcolm X 1526466_1527317
	we (.) sitting in the college named after him 1527317_1529616
	&=in he said by whatever means necessary . 1529616_1532270
*PAUL:	&=in So by whatever means necessary it takes for you to get &{l=X gautonomous &}l=X 1532270_1536559
	&=in touched 1536647_1537222
	(.) contagious 1537222_1538239
	&=in in in love with (..) poor folks . 1538239_1541224
*PAUL:	(..) is what is gonna take 1541699_1543025
	(.) to keep your agencies 1543025_1544905
	(..) empowered . 1545524_1546198
*MANY:	(..) &=APPLAUSE ⌈ &=lengthened ⌉ &=lengthened . 1547536_1551725
*PATT:	                ⌊ Thank you Paul ⌋ . 1549957_1550697
*PATT:	Um 1551703_1552134
	(.) before we close 1552134_1553129
	we have uh several members of the Coordinating Council here 1553129_1556191
	who I'd like to recognize 1556191_1557462
	and see if they (..) want to add anything 1557462_1559828
	before we (.) leave uh (.) here tonight . 1559828_1562404
*PATT:	&=in Um 1562404_1563211
	(..) we have Sproule White 1563520_1564670
	who is the executive director of the Chicago Jobs Council 1564670_1568130
	(..) um 1568439_1569003
	(.) Wanda White 1569003_1569744
	who is the executive director of the Community Work⌈shop on ⌉ Economic Development . 1569744_1574044
*AUD:	                                                   ⌊ &=COUGH ⌋ . 1572364_1572673
*PATT:	&=in and Ted Wysaki 1574298_1575691
	who is the executive director of 1575780_1578090
	(.) uh 1578256_1578709
	CANDO 1578709_1579505
	the Chicago Association of Neighborhood Development (.) Organizations 1579505_1583197
	and also 1583197_1583849
	Frank Grossman was here 1583849_1585441
	&=in from Continental Bank . 1585441_1587033
*PATT:	(.) And also the chair of the capital improvement advisory committee . 1587166_1591245
*PATT:	(..) Do you wanna say anything ? 1592317_1593422
*X:	(..) Okay . 1593721_1594086
*CHER:	(..) I'll just (..) make one point 1594926_1596639
	and I'll make it brief 1596639_1597656
	and that is . 1597656_1598264
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