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@Participants:	RAND RANDY Speaker, LANC LANCE Speaker, BILL BILL Speaker, ENV ENV Environment
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@Media:	22, audio
@Comment:	Runway Heading
@Comment:	Task-related interaction, recorded in an air traffic control
	tower in Portland, Oregon. Lance is training to be an air traffic
	controller, and has just finished working a shift. Randy, an
	experienced controller, is giving Lance feedback/briefing on his
	performance on that shift.
*RAND:	(..) &=in ʔuh: You know it's: 2835_4073
	(.) it was really pretty straightforward this ⌈ morning ⌉ . 4073_6874
*LANC:	                                              ⌊ &=in ⌋ . 6518_7163
*RAND:	(..) &=in (.) And 7163_7927
	(..) y- z- +/. 8795_9430
*RAND:	(..) I thought you did a good job all the way through . 9910_11740
*RAND:	(..) I mean you were on ⌈ top of what you were ⌉ scanning . 12220_14307
*LANC:	                        ⌊ Hm . 12832_13059
*LANC:	Thanks ⌋ . 13059_13407
*LANC:	&=SNIFF . 13846_14209
*RAND:	(..) um . 15229_15630
*LANC:	(.) should've kept that one Horizon 15766_17120
	Fauker jet . 17120_17543
*LANC:	just t- keep em on the right . 17543_18693
*RAND:	(..) Why did you switch em . 19298_20220
*LANC:	&=in Well 20493_20954
	(..) ʔuh &=ex 21892_22164
	(..) looking at something 22829_23608
	I would get +/. 23608_23986
*LANC:	it didn't seem like I could get someone else out . 23986_25642
*LANC:	(..) But 25779_26164
	&=in um 26678_27238
	(..) a:nd 27586_28032
	(.) part of it to provide a good service 28032_29439
	but then . 29439_30013
*RAND:	(..) Yeah . 30543_31042
*RAND:	(..) &=in ʔuh Well 31874_32320
	ʔuh that- that- +/. 32320_32993
*RAND:	I guess that's one reason the two eight's kind of +/. 32993_34717
*RAND:	(..) well 36433_36789
	two eight's kinda nice sometimes 36796_38158
	because 38248_38967
	(..) ʔuh: (.) ʔuh I mean when we're on ten 40366_41281
	all the departures seemed like they're going ⌈ out the ⌉ left . 41281_43338
*LANC:	                                             ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ . 42717_43118
*RAND:	&=in so you really want your arrivals on the right . 43890_45727
*RAND:	(.) When you're landing two eight 45742_47028
	&=in (.) then you can (.) get departures off of 47618_49463
	almost ⌈ both ⌉ at any time . 49463_50816
*LANC:	       ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ . 49780_50128
*RAND:	So you ⌈2 always got a ⌉2 hole . 50794_52072
*LANC:	       ⌊2 N_yeah ⌋2 . 51036_51626
*LANC:	(.) Yeah . 52389_52836
*RAND:	(.) So 52904_53289
	(..) but uh 54454_54892
	don't feel bad about keeping Horizon on the right 54892_56813
	&{l=X boy &}l=X 56813_57048
	because . 57048_57532
*LANC:	Mhm . 57622_57985
*RAND:	(..) &=in sure doesn't hurt them to taxi &{l=X any &}l=X . 58681_60103
*RAND:	They're so used to having 60103_61343
	(..) A number one service 62031_63362
	&=laugh &=lengthened ⌈ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉ . 63362_63679
*LANC:	                     ⌊ &=tsk &=in Yeah . 63611_63921
*LANC:	plus ⌋ when they're ⌈2 departing . 63921_64746
*RAND:	                    ⌊2 every one of em came ⌋2 +... 64473_65494
*LANC:	(.) they're right by ⌉2 the gate . 64927_66062
*LANC:	&=in Everyone- +/. 66183_66576
*LANC:	even 66576_66939
	(.) even one or- +/. 66939_67423
*LANC:	one or two of em I said 67355_68247
	I'll advise if the left becomes available . 68247_69843
*LANC:	&=in ⌈ and they said w- . 70168_70735
*RAND:	     ⌊ and they +/. 70274_70667
*RAND:	they still ask ⌋ . 70667_71090
*LANC:	(.) we'd like the ⌉ left 70742_71340
	if it &{l=@ becomes ⌈2 available &}l=@ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh ⌉2 . 71340_72572
*RAND:	                    ⌊2 &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in &=laugh ⌋2 72104_73283
	I know 73510_73828
	⌈ they still ⌉ ask . 73828_74576
*LANC:	⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ . 73828_74334
*RAND:	And Viking is the same way . 74599_76119
*RAND:	(.) ⌈ &=in &=lengthened ⌉ . 76013_76459
*LANC:	    ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 76308_76769
*RAND:	(..) So . 77548_78153
*RAND:	(..) There's: sh: +/. 78932_80006
*RAND:	there's sure nothing wrong with keeping em on the right though . 80006_82214
*RAND:	(..) Um 83069_83666
	(..) Traffic Watch Eight we discussed . 85609_87235
*LANC:	&=in &=tsk So radar ⌈ service ter⌉minated . 87334_88422
*RAND:	                    ⌊ um ⌋ 87825_88029
	call me inbound 88407_89300
	(..) or . 89617_90048
*RAND:	(.) &=in You wanna say &{l=Q radar service terminated 91107_92476
	frequency change approved . 92476_93406
*RAND:	(.) Report back inbound &}l=Q . 93406_94555
*RAND:	(..) Or 96015_96521
	(..) &=in I I think that something a littleʔ little (.) more like that's better 97285_100045
	than just saying radar service terminated 100045_101528
	because 101528_101966
	he's kinda +... 101966_102443
*LANC:	&=SNIFF . 102443_102881
*RAND:	(..) ⌈ Left hanging ⌉ . 103335_104038
*LANC:	     ⌊ Okay ⌋ . 103335_104046
*RAND:	(.) And you could just say 104711_105535
	(..) radar service terminated 105634_106534
	report back inbound 106534_107464
	and then he'll +/. 107464_108069
*RAND:	(..) he'll either come back and say 108439_109475
	well I'm departing the area 109475_110284
	now back to Hillsborrow 110322_111267
	&=in Or I'll call you back inbound . 111525_112719
*RAND:	So that gives you an idea . 112719_113937
*LANC:	(.) Okay . 113937_114413
*RAND:	(..) But uh 114685_115298
	(..) a:nd uh 116251_117151
	(.) &=in (..) ʔuh: Along with that 117620_119964
	(..) Let TC 120591_121779
	(.) do more of the work for you . 121975_123291
*LANC:	(.) Okay [% laugh] . 123548_123972
*RAND:	(..) ʔyou know 125045_125560
	(..) Um 126044_126558
	(.) just tell her what you want her to do . 126671_128138
*LANC:	&=SNIFF . 128123_128524
*RAND:	&=in (..) I was thinking of a (.) couple (..) instances 130089_132456
	where you could've used her more than you did . 132456_134286
*LANC:	(..) Okay . 135239_136003
*LANC:	&=in I was thinking that for my rundowns 136139_137825
	(..) you know that would ʔuh 137788_138476
	(.) that's +/. 138476_138793
*LANC:	(..) that would have been a help 139534_140495
	but 140495_140971
	&=in on the other s- the other hand . 140971_142521
*BILL:	(..) I wanna get it on tape 142733_143451
	heck of a job Lance . 143451_144382
*RAND:	⌈ &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in &=in . 144412_145297
*LANC:	⌊ Oh thank you very much . 144382_145281
*LANC:	(.) Did you hear that ? 145372_145894
*LANC:	(.) &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in 146287_147709
	um 147732_148299
	&=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in ⌋ . 148389_148919
*RAND:	&=in The problem with doing rundowns 148920_150080
	is that ⌉ it's kind of over in your face . 150080_151620
*LANC:	(.) Yeah 151786_152207
	(.) Yeah . 152342_152628
*LANC:	⌈ So ⌉ . 152628_153040
*RAND:	⌊ Cause the ⌋ D-light's kind of 152628_153764
	(.) pretty far over to the left there 153764_155161
	but sh- you can 155161_155750
	you can have her do it if you want . 155750_156920
*LANC:	(.) &=tsk &=in Um 157105_157888
	&=in I would +/. 158107_158620
*LANC:	(..) I'm (.) just (.) working at 158848_161415
	(..) doing as much (.) of these other things as I possibly can 162004_164840
	(..) Because they'll be times when I won't have a TC 166069_167677
	and just +/. 167702_168123
*LANC:	(..) just (..) ⌈ challenging myself . 168535_170227
*RAND:	               ⌊ And that's okay . 169259_170227
*RAND:	&=in ⌋ . 170227_170589
*LANC:	&=in ⌉ Um 170227_170841
	what were some of the things 170841_171675
	other than +/. 171675_172180
*LANC:	what- what were some of the things that 172180_173274
	&=in that I should have used ⌈ her for that I didn't . 173459_175142
*RAND:	                             ⌊ &=in Depending on who your ⌋ +... 174999_175420
*LANC:	&=SNIFF ⌉ . 175151_175420
*RAND:	Who your TC is 175420_176338
	if c- certain people sit down there 176338_177777
	they d- +/. 177777_178122
*RAND:	they have a tendency to do everything for you . 178223_179990
*RAND:	&=in And sometimes that is p- +/. 180201_181404
*RAND:	that is really pretty nice . 181446_182709
*RAND:	&=in If you just 182995_183551
	(.) if you just 183551_184098
	(.) all you have to do is stand up 184241_185470
	(..) and look out the window 185857_186749
	and look at the bright . 186749_187515
*RAND:	(.) and talk . 187515_188256
*RAND:	(..) ʔuh: You- no other w- +/. 188718_190225
*RAND:	no other coordination 190225_191353
	or 191353_191614
	(.) or ARTS functions 191614_192531
	or anything 192556_193019
	&=in ⌈ That really is nice ⌉ . 193440_194930
*LANC:	     ⌊ &=tsk That's ideal ⌋ . 193440_194341
*RAND:	(..) ⌈2 It it really ⌉2 helps . 195427_196672
*LANC:	     ⌊2 Mhm ⌋2 . 195595_196058
*RAND:	(..) the situation . 196880_197720
*LANC:	(.) Mhm . 197905_198305
*RAND:	(.) So 198505_199080
	(..) but 199405_199745
	(..) ʔuh: Right now 200590_201290
	like you say 201290_201793
	maybe it is better for you to do ⌈ some of that ⌉ stuff . 201793_203625
*LANC:	                                 ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ 202809_203143
	(.) &=tsk um 203730_204440
	(..) I don't think there was &=ex 205956_207350
	I mean I had 207350_207841
	(..) just a couple that I switched to the left 209139_210778
	you know maybe three or so 210795_211742
	that I switched to the left 211742_212513
	uh p- +/. 212505_213057
*LANC:	(.) uh probably two or three 212943_213960
	(.) &=in and so there was that 214591_215415
	I didn't have any (..) ARTS entries 215415_216993
	I had 216993_217484
	(..) you know 218071_218308
	Traffic Watch to slue out to . 218308_219903
*RAND:	&=YAWN . 219859_220631
*LANC:	um . 220631_221227
*RAND:	&=YAWN (.) &{l=YWN Yeah &}l=YWN . 221691_223550
*LANC:	For the most part 223550_224391
	(..) I mean I was able to k- +/. 224795_225566
*LANC:	I think I was able to keep up with that stuff . 225566_227205
*RAND:	With the ARTS . 227205_227819
*LANC:	(.) Yeah . 228012_228397
*LANC:	I mean 228397_228678
	&=laugh &=laugh there wasn't really nothing much to do . 228678_230142
*LANC:	⌈ &=in um ⌉ . 230563_231115
*RAND:	⌊ No 230475_230624
	there wasn't ⌋ . 230624_231054
*LANC:	(..) So . 232745_233271
*RAND:	(.) But there could be . 233666_234376
*LANC:	(.) Yeah . 234542_235051
*RAND:	If there's VFRs departing 234875_236120
	or . 236033_236471
*LANC:	(.) Yeah . 236357_236725
*LANC:	I told her (.) to do my (..) VFR guys . 236725_239355
*RAND:	(.) ʔOh ʔYeah . 239662_240293
*LANC:	And um 240293_241038
	to write down my VFRs . 241134_242379
*LANC:	&=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in 242423_243387
	That's [% laugh] one thing I gotta kick myself to do . 243387_245035
*RAND:	(..) Yeah . 245780_246227
*LANC:	(..) Now are we still required to w- +/. 247060_248209
*LANC:	write 248209_248568
	like 248577_248901
	the Empires that coming in through the gates VFR ? 248901_251189
*LANC:	(.) Don't they ? 251294_251846
*LANC:	(.) We are ? 251960_252451
*RAND:	(..) ⌈ Any ⌉ VFR . 253039_253828
*LANC:	     ⌊ &=in ⌋ 252986_253267
	&=in Now isn't that 253915_254915
	(..) aren't they when they c- +/. 255265_256168
*LANC:	(..) But what if they've +/. 258009_258956
*LANC:	(..) c- well I guess we have no way of knowing if they've come in IFR 259447_261708
	and then cancelled VFR . 261708_262848
*RAND:	(..) Well yeah 263514_263979
	because they have a strip on it down⌈stairs ⌉ . 263979_265705
*LANC:	                                    ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 265346_265714
*RAND:	So . 265714_265925
*RAND:	(..) ʔI don't +/. 266836_267318
*RAND:	ʔuh: actually 267713_268397
	ʔuh I'm like you 268511_269142
	I don't really know what the point is of that . 269142_271149
*RAND:	(..) Because we do have a record of em anyway . 272508_274252
*RAND:	(..) ⌈ But ⌉ . 274875_275331
*LANC:	     ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 274866_275331
*RAND:	(..) ʔuh when the +/. 276058_276567
*RAND:	when the +/. 276567_277163
*RAND:	(..) order came across or whatever 277881_279196
	&{l=X or this &}l=X memorandum that said 279196_280450
	to write down all VFR arrivals . 280450_281984
*LANC:	(..) &=tsk Okay . 283588_284097
*RAND:	(.) So 284298_284693
	if they're a VFR arrival 284693_285657
	you're supposed to write it down . 285657_286814
*LANC:	(..) Okay . 287270_287629
*LANC:	(..) &{l=P I'll do that then &}l=P . 288707_289593
*RAND:	Unhunh . 289593_290092
*RAND:	(.) &=in When Horizon one-thirty-eight didn't answer you there ? 290522_292494
*LANC:	(..) &=in (..) Go back to ground ? 293800_294774
*RAND:	(..) ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 295440_295764
*LANC:	     ⌊ or just ⌋ move on to something else . 295484_296798
*RAND:	(.) I mean you tried him a couple times . 296798_298017
*RAND:	You say Horizon one-thirty-eight 298017_298937
	XXXXX 298937_299612
	(..) if they don't get the hint 300375_301173
	if he's +/. 301199_301602
*RAND:	(..) &=in but if you can't get him 302637_304179
	(..) just go on . 304819_305661
*RAND:	and do something else that you can do . 305661_307011
*RAND:	(.) United was calling ready to go . 307011_308475
*LANC:	(.) Yeah . 308475_308922
*RAND:	So 309027_309378
	shoot . 309378_309833
*RAND:	(..) just let United go . 310210_311236
*RAND:	(..) Hori⌈zon ⌉ . 311639_312192
*LANC:	         ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 311937_312192
*RAND:	you can't do nothing with him 312192_312998
	so just have him hold there . 312998_314015
*RAND:	(..) So just go on to the next . 315061_316392
*LANC:	&=tsk Okay . 316392_316929
*RAND:	(..) Next thing 319043_319487
	and do tell ground . 319487_320491
*RAND:	(..) He might be still on ground frequency 321274_322733
	which ⌈ is ⌉ +... 322733_323259
*LANC:	      ⌊ &=SNIFF ⌋ . 322944_323306
*RAND:	&=in (..) uh 324509_325314
	(.) usually not too likely 325478_326611
	because 326611_327265
	(..) ⌈ you know ⌉ . 328491_328993
*LANC:	     ⌊ At that ⌋ point . 328491_329343
*RAND:	At that point 329343_329822
	⌈ well he's ⌉ out there . 329799_330558
*LANC:	⌊ you know ⌋ 329799_330173
	⌈2 He's ⌉2 +... 330511_330768
*RAND:	⌊2 and he's ⌋2 probably sitting ⌈3 there ⌉3 . 330511_331516
*LANC:	                                ⌊3 &=SNIFF ⌋3 . 331294_331656
*RAND:	and th- he's not hearing anything 331586_333092
	(..) &=ex (.) from the ⌈ tower ⌉ you know . 334424_335334
*LANC:	                       ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 334657_334926
*RAND:	he's probably 335334_335813
	(..) looking at his radio about then 335883_337612
	(.) &=in (.) &=ex . 338161_340310
*LANC:	(..) &=in Yeah 341898_342727
	I think I was a little bit rigid in my planning of that 342727_344666
	cause I wanted to +/. 344666_345214
*LANC:	had to plan 345214_345868
	(..) to get him out at that point . 347725_349150
*LANC:	(..) a:nd 349746_350271
	(.) I should've been more flexible and . 350271_351754
*RAND:	(..) But uh 355550_356554
	you know &=HX 356554_357267
	(.) everything else I saw 357267_358913
	(.) &=in you- your separation was 359030_360934
	(.) was really good this morning . 361074_362148
*RAND:	I mean you really tightened em up . 362148_363515
*RAND:	(.) Maybe a couple times almost a l:ittle bit ⌈ too tigh:t [% laugh] . 363923_367100
*LANC:	                                              ⌊ &{l=@ a little too tight &}l=@ ⌋ . 365955_367030
*LANC:	&=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=SNORT &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=in . 367030_368349
*RAND:	&=laugh &=laugh &=laugh &=laugh 367030_368349
	Cause uh ⌉ 368349_369272
	&=in ʔuh +/. 369272_370370
*RAND:	(..) I don't know 371806_372367
	y- a couple times you had 372367_373745
	like one just barely at departure end 373745_375590
	a jet at departure 375590_376548
	and you cleared another jet for takeoff . 376548_378031
*RAND:	(.) &=in And it worked out ⌈ great ⌉ . 378124_379199
*LANC:	                           ⌊ &=tsk Oh ⌋ . 379105_379456
*LANC:	(..) One guy out the right and then +/. 379899_380717
*LANC:	oh th- +/. 380717_381067
*LANC:	both guys out the ⌈ left . 381067_381838
*RAND:	                  ⌊ Both guys out to the left ⌋ . 381640_382527
*LANC:	&=SNIFF ⌉ . 381920_382422
*RAND:	&=in (.) And it worked out good 382994_383730
	but 383730_384185
	(..) ʔuh I think it worked out because 384314_386276
	(..) &=tsk this guy 388343_388985
	was real slow 388985_389814
	on (.) on (.) starting his departure roll . 389814_391811
*RAND:	(.) &=in (.) You know . 392477_393049
*LANC:	⌈ Mhm ⌉ . 392991_393458
*RAND:	⌊ usually ⌋ you gotta get em just a little bit off the departure end . 392991_395607
*RAND:	(..) before you clear the next guy . 396751_398235
*RAND:	&=in And watch out for the uh 398492_399835
	(.) the seven-th:irty-seven 399986_401750
	(..) four-⌈hundreds ⌉ . 402556_403583
*LANC:	          ⌊ Four-hundreds ⌋ 402929_403583
	(..) ⌈2 Okay ⌉2 . 403747_404564
*RAND:	     ⌊2 Or three ⌋2 hundreds and 403747_404704
	⌈3 &=in ⌉3 . 404704_404973
*LANC:	⌊3 Okay ⌋3 . 404973_405522
*RAND:	(..) Because uh ʔuh: 406012_407064
	(..) they'll really climb . 407659_408547
*RAND:	And they can go fast 408547_409691
	too . 409691_410123
*LANC:	(.) Okay . 410123_410637
*RAND:	(..) So 411046_411431
	(.) well you know 411431_411863
	just take into consideration the type of aircrafts . 411863_413592
*RAND:	It takes the seven-twenty-seven a little b- while to get wound up 413592_415647
	while the seven-thirty-seven'll really go . 415647_417341
*RAND:	(..) But uh 419139_419700
	(.) ʔuh +/. 419700_420225
*RAND:	I mean it was really good . 420225_421159
*RAND:	(..) Good departure separation . 421370_422502
*LANC:	(..) Thanks . 423075_423437
*RAND:	(.) I was impressed . 424079_425200
*RAND:	(..) A:nd 426461_427104
	you saw: 427104_427746
	a little bit about the two-sixty ? 427746_429147
*RAND:	(..) Heading ? 429930_430339
*RAND:	ʔuh Listen to the readbacks for +... 430339_431588
*LANC:	&=in Yeah . 431588_432324
*RAND:	(.) &=in (..) If I know he's at two-thirty . 433422_435033
*RAND:	(..) But you can wrap em around 436084_437287
	to one-thirty or one-sixty 437287_438479
	to avoid the MBA 438479_439273
	and that works great 439273_440020
	because: 440020_440429
	otherwise you got two-sixty ? 440429_441643
*RAND:	&=in There was that one time you had +/. 442076_443150
*RAND:	(..) two: south plan aircraft 445509_447401
	and one (..) westbound- +/. 447401_449456
*RAND:	or 449456_449678
	&{l=X river &}l=X 449678_450215
	⌈ metro ⌉ and . 450215_451313
*LANC:	⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 450297_450718
*RAND:	&=in &=lengthened . 451383_451792
*LANC:	Mhm . 451792_452680
*RAND:	(..) I d- +/. 452948_453590
*RAND:	I actually didn't think 453590_454887
	(..) you were gonna have three miles between the two first . 455389_457269
*LANC:	(..) ⌈ Mhm ⌉ . 458624_458963
*RAND:	     ⌊ south ⌋ &{l=X plan air lane &}l=X 458822_459546
	but you did . 459546_460271
*RAND:	(..) That was perfect . 461310_462022
*LANC:	(..) The one that I kept on runway heading for ⌈ a bit ? 462466_463926
*RAND:	                                               ⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 463681_464136
*LANC:	or ⌉ . 463926_464218
*RAND:	(.) ⌈2 Yeah ⌉2 . 464253_464767
*LANC:	    ⌊2 Okay ⌋2 . 464405_464942
*RAND:	(..) And that was good 466986_467838
	(.) it was real good planning 467838_468948
	to keep that one Caravan on runway heading 468948_470664
	when you had the other one going two-sixty ? 470664_472264
*RAND:	(..) To ensure that you had 473631_475161
	(..) oh and you had the one going two-forty . 475628_477064
*LANC:	&=in . 476959_477298
*RAND:	(.) or some⌈thing . 477671_478104
*LANC:	           ⌊ &=ex ⌋ . 477998_478279
*RAND:	and then you had the ⌉ Metro going s:- +/. 478279_479447
*RAND:	(.) going two-sixty . 479447_480579
*LANC:	(..) ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 480895_481409
*RAND:	     ⌊ But you kept ⌋ the Metro on 480895_482004
	&{l=X this &}l=X runway heading . 482004_482973
*RAND:	(..) Which is really good planning . 483452_484492
*RAND:	(..) So . 487540_488567
*LANC:	(..) &=tsk &=in I'm +/. 494115_495131
*LANC:	(..) I'm +/. 495271_496018
*LANC:	(..) less and less (..) impacted . 497665_500550
*LANC:	(.) For lack of a better word . 500643_501741
*LANC:	(..) by 502698_503329
	(..) these g- +/. 504789_505244
*LANC:	for some reason 505244_505957
	with all these 505957_506809
	(.) um 506809_507358
	(.) I think 507627_508117
	(..) the bulk of (.) my planning 508468_510067
	(..) seems to revolve around these little guys 510535_512508
	(.) when I can turn em 512508_513314
	fitting em in with all my other guys 513314_514634
	for some reason 514634_515054
	I mean y- 515054_515475
	&=in and that is 515603_516304
	(..) you know 516421_516969
	(.) those guys 517133_517834
	(..) having a very fec- affective part 518721_520520
	(.) in the whole fan 520520_521711
	(.) of all our departures . 521734_522972
*LANC:	(..) And um . 523299_524163
*RAND:	(.) Hm . 524619_524876
*LANC:	(.) I think they're 524946_525763
	(..) they're a- (.) affecting me less than they did in the past . 527013_529664
*RAND:	(.) ⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 529862_530295
*LANC:	    ⌊ Does that ⌋ make sense ? 529862_530703
*RAND:	⌈2 Yeah ⌉2 . 530820_531170
*LANC:	⌊2 &=in ⌋2 &{l=@ Do you know what I mean &}l=@ ? 531042_531778
*LANC:	&=in Um 532093_532782
	(..) cause i- +/. 534440_534756
*LANC:	there was a time where 534756_535585
	(.) I mean that sequence was good too . 535585_537091
*LANC:	&=in but there was a time when 537220_538808
	(..) yeah an ʔi- +/. 539439_539964
*LANC:	it it may happen again . 539964_541132
*RAND:	(.) Yeah . 541366_541716
*LANC:	&{l=X Who knows &}l=X +/. 541716_542031
*LANC:	where I've got 542031_542580
	(.) the little West Coasts in here 542662_543795
	and all these guys off the right and left 543760_545126
	(..) where am I actually gonna fit these guys in 545488_547333
	and they're all calling 547333_548092
	they're ready way early . 548092_549038
*LANC:	(..) And . 549762_550288
*RAND:	(..) Well the sequence 550849_551888
	&=in uh 552238_552892
	can't be too bad . 552892_553792
*RAND:	(.) When you got +/. 553850_554364
*RAND:	when you can feed ⌈ from charley ⌉ . 554364_555905
*LANC:	                  ⌊ &=in XX ⌋ . 555286_555847
*RAND:	&=in and from bravo 556127_556910
	and from alpha . 556956_557727
*RAND:	(..) You know ʔuh 558697_559257
	the sequence can't be too bad 559257_560250
	I mean all ⌈ he did ⌉ . 560250_561102
*LANC:	           ⌊ You got some⌋thing you can do . 560799_561838
*RAND:	Yeah . 561838_562364
*RAND:	(..) All he did is send em all out . 562469_563835
*RAND:	I mean ⌈ you got all the ⌉ West Coasts in the row over on charley . 563835_565832
*LANC:	       ⌊ &=laugh &=laugh ⌋ . 564150_564396
*RAND:	you got the jets in a row on bravo 565739_567187
	and you got n- various things over here . 567187_568717
*RAND:	&=in So 569225_569600
	(.) you can pick and choose . 569820_570825
*RAND:	(..) You know 572615_572985
	(.) y- +/. 573045_573245
*RAND:	I mean as a ground control 573280_574140
	you can just send em all out there 574140_575220
	and then 575220_575490
	&=in when they get there 575945_576445
	then you can start arranging the strips . 576445_577760
*RAND:	&=laugh &=lengthened &=laugh ⌈ &=laugh ⌉ . 577720_578020
*LANC:	                             ⌊ &=laugh ⌋ &=laugh . 578095_578680
*RAND:	You know 578670_578935
	the way you want 578935_579315
	almost . 579315_579810
*LANC:	⌈ Yeah ⌉ . 579810_580170
*RAND:	⌊ &=in ⌋ 579840_580200
	(.) You know th- 580510_580785
	⌈ that's ⌉ . 580785_581155
*LANC:	⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 580785_581180
*RAND:	that 581255_581460
	it works great . 581460_582035
*RAND:	(..) ⌈ That way ⌉ . 582350_582745
*LANC:	     ⌊ Because you ⌋ don't have to sequence em at some other point 582350_584315
	in their taxi route 584315_585260
	⌈ you know ⌉ . 585260_585805
*RAND:	⌊ Yeah ⌋ . 585260_585770
*LANC:	(..) They're b- +/. 587125_587390
*LANC:	(.) they +/. 587560_587805
*LANC:	(.) ʔe +/. 587940_588200
*LANC:	(.) essentially on their own (..) taxiway 588390_590450
	up through +/. 590450_590825
*LANC:	up to the (.) approach end . 590825_591955
*LANC:	(.) So . 591955_592285
*RAND:	(..) &=YAWN &{l=YWN So that was about all &}l=YWN . 595270_598670
*RAND:	(..) that I +/. 600915_601470
*RAND:	(..) you know 601970_602290
	that I had . 602290_602770
*RAND:	I mean 602770_603065
	I was paying pretty close attention there 603065_604550
	and I didn't (.) really see much of a problem . 604550_606225
*LANC:	(..) Oh . 607130_607430
*LANC:	⌈ Thanks ⌉ . 607485_607995
*RAND:	⌊ N:o ⌋ significant problems . 607505_608795
*RAND:	(..) XX 609440_609805
	(..) to talk about . 609885_610620
*LANC:	(..) I'm ⌈ glad ⌉ . 612895_613160
*RAND:	         ⌊ See there ⌋ was 613115_613825
	(..) S- +/. 615860_616145
*RAND:	(.) &=in Oh um 616430_617240
	(.) don't always 617710_618430
	ʔuh: (..) um 620095_620570
	(..) don't insist on always saying 621560_623205
	(..) seven hundred . 623615_624390
*RAND:	If you say +... 624390_625080
*LANC:	(..) &=in ⌈ Oh . 627535_627820
*RAND:	          ⌊ Why hadn't you ⌋ +... 627535_628205
*LANC:	at some ⌉ point after he is leaving seven 627830_629320
	just wait till he is leaving seven hundred you ⌈2 mean ⌉2 ? 629320_630805
*RAND:	                                               ⌊2 Some⌋2times you can ⌈3 do that ⌉3 . 630660_631670
*LANC:	                                                                      ⌊3 Yeah ⌋3 . 631245_631625
*RAND:	Yeah . 631725_632065
*RAND:	There was a couple times 632065_632725
	you didn't need to say it when 632725_633960
	(.) when you did . 634120_634865
*LANC:	It was out in the +/. 635070_635620
*LANC:	yeah . 635720_636010
*RAND:	Yeah . 636010_636335
*RAND:	(.) Well I mean ⌈ y- w- +... 636630_637200
*LANC:	                ⌊ Could've either waited ⌋ just a bit . 637070_638355
*RAND:	it was at ⌋ +/. 637400_637710
*RAND:	⌈2 He was at a five⌉2-hundred climb and . 638345_639765
*LANC:	⌊2 Or 638345_638560
	he was a- ⌋2 +... 638560_638930
*RAND:	(..) just go ahead and say 640480_641325
	turn left heading one six zero . 641325_642680
*LANC:	(..) ⌈ Okay ⌉ . 644150_644520
*RAND:	     ⌊ Or turn ⌋ left heading two six zero . 644150_645545
*RAND:	For a Metro . 645615_646015
*RAND:	I mean if you leave em on runway heading 646015_647470
	&=in for a little bit . 647975_648740
*LANC:	Mhm . 648740_649055
*RAND:	they're gonna be at the altitude you need so 649055_650740
	(..) but that's no big deal . 652945_653940
*RAND:	(..) A:nd uh 657835_658625
	I was watching Jet Speed come in 658625_659905
	(..) and you got Delta out in front of Jet Speed . 660320_662020
*LANC:	(.) Mhm . 662410_662690
*RAND:	(..) It seemed like you were a little tense with that but 663195_664660
	&=in really pay attention to the speeds when they're coming in . 665830_667855
*RAND:	He was doing a hundred and twenty outside of Laker there . 667855_669965
*RAND:	(..) Did you see that ? 670210_670830
*LANC:	Yeah . 670840_671110
*RAND:	(.) Yeah . 671375_671745
*LANC:	(.) So that +/. 671890_672360
*LANC:	(.) ⌈ that worked out great ⌉ . 672360_673235
*RAND:	    ⌊ I wondered if you'd saw- ⌋ +/. 672360_673235
*RAND:	Yeah . 673235_673620
*RAND:	I mean there was lots of room . 673620_674840
*RAND:	(..) Lots of ⌈ time . 675405_675935
*LANC:	             ⌊ Mhm ⌋ . 675770_676040
*RAND:	He ⌉ wasn't 676040_676415
	he z- wasn't flying as a normal . 676415_677845
*LANC:	Mhm . 677930_678230
*RAND:	(.) For some reason 678450_679015
	he just used the +... 679015_679720
*LANC:	Mhm . 680015_680255
*RAND:	Or is it uh 680255_681025
	Exec Jet . 681055_681900
*RAND:	(..) One of those guys is usually really fast . 682120_684055
*LANC:	(.) &=in Jet Speed ⌈ is th- I know fast on the ⌉ pr- departure . 684470_686540
*RAND:	                   ⌊ AM-Flight ⌋ . 684920_685485
*LANC:	it seems . 686505_687030
*RAND:	(.) Yeah . 687185_687620
*LANC:	(..) ʔuh I think . 688095_688840
*LANC:	(.) It (.) seems like that was the one 689060_690305
	but 690305_690520
	yeah AM-Flight 690520_691125
	when they fly the later jet . 691125_692030
*LANC:	&=in Um 693220_693530
	yeah . 693530_693880
*LANC:	And I think I might have said for delta niners or to 693880_695670
	no delay 695670_696105
	or some⌈thing like that and ⌉ . 696105_697105
*RAND:	       ⌊ Yeah . 696355_696580
*RAND:	I think you did ⌋ . 696580_697050
*LANC:	&=laugh &=laugh &=laugh 697110_697565
	(..) And he was actually floating at +/. 698605_699785
*LANC:	ʔuh the Jet Speed wasn't +/. 699785_700755
*LANC:	(..) yeah . 701345_701675
*RAND:	Yeah 701675_701905
	you had a lot of time . 701905_702605
*LANC:	Yeah . 702735_702950
*RAND:	(..) When the Twins (..) get airborne 706900_708950
	you got a jet &{l=X following &}l=X 708950_709840
	the twin- twin's gonna go southwestbound ? 709840_711355
*RAND:	(..) &=in If you got six-thousand feet 713420_714780
	and the twin's climbing out of four or five hundred 714780_716565
	(..) you can start your transmission 716810_718055
	then to the 718055_718705
	(.) to the jet . 718975_719610
*LANC:	(.) Okay . 719755_720175
*RAND:	&{l=Q Twin Cesna ahead is: 720175_721265
	will be turning southwestbound 721265_722690
	(..) momentarily 723035_723715
	runway two eight left clear for takeoff &}l=Q . 723715_724980
*RAND:	It says in sight 724980_725790
	(.) &=in . 726070_726490
*LANC:	(.) Just &{l=X didn't wanna be &}l=X sure he gets his turn in ? 726775_728375
*RAND:	(.) Mhm . 728610_729050
*RAND:	(.) ⌈ &=in ⌉ . 729490_729805
*LANC:	    ⌊ Okay ⌋ . 729445_729805
*RAND:	The Caravan's coming across 729915_731350
	(..) if you wanna get &=ex +... 731695_732620
*LANC:	&=in Yeah what do you say . 733080_733730
*LANC:	Cause I've heard different phraseology 733730_734695
	and I af- (.) feel like I was stumbling over that 734695_736295
	I think I said it- 736295_736995
	(.) couple different ways . 737165_738245
*RAND:	(..) A mile west 738990_739830
	or something +/. 739830_740070
*RAND:	I'll- I just say 740070_741170
	&=in (..) ʔuh: you know on a day like this 742735_744460
	it's so easy to see em 744460_745320
	I would just say the Caravan ahead 745320_746840
	(..) is southwestbound . 747605_748610
*RAND:	(.) &{l=Q Runway two eight left 748755_749330
	clear for takeoff &}l=Q . 749330_749870
*RAND:	(..) And and they'll 750075_750945
	(.) a lot of times they'll say uh in sight . 750945_752415
*RAND:	(..) If they don't say in sight 753355_754245
	(..) they'll say 754435_755005
	(..) ʔuh: they'll &=ex 756285_756715
	I would assume they have em in sight 756745_758075
	because they won't go . 758070_759005
*LANC:	(..) Mhm . 759835_760235
*RAND:	Unless they seem em . 760235_761005
*RAND:	I mean that's important to them 761005_761910
	to see the traffic . 761910_762615
*RAND:	(..) but it's safe 764065_764750
	it's a safe operation . 764805_765955
*RAND:	&=in Because 766665_767075
	(..) ʔuh one thing 768265_768950
	&=ex you could do 768950_769835
	is is turn the (.) Caravan to two-forty . 769825_772080
*RAND:	&=in . 772150_773325
*LANC:	(..) Mhm . 773325_773730
*RAND:	To get him across . 773965_774895
*RAND:	And then 774900_775375
	(..) just before you ship em 775895_776555
	send em back to two-fifty XX something like that . 776555_778785
*LANC:	(..) Hm . 779185_779555
*LANC:	&=laugh &=laugh &=laugh . 779815_780190
*RAND:	&=SNIFF 780090_780415
	(..) Cause the track's what im- (.) what's important . 785000_786840
*RAND:	(..) But 788310_788580
	(.) but two-fifty was working out fine today . 788675_790260
*RAND:	(..) Fifteen degrees and a mile . 793725_794785
*RAND:	(..) Is what you need so 796360_797235
	(..) or less . 799740_800330
*RAND:	(.) using visual . 800330_801050
*LANC:	(..) Yeah 803480_803760
	In fact it was a 803760_804455
	(..) Was the West Coast that +/. 805615_806600
*LANC:	(..) was it the Horizon who said he could (.) do the visual with the Twin Cesna ahead 807305_810160
	or was it vice versa 810150_811085
	one of the two . 811085_811735
*ENV:	(.) &=PHONE_RING . 812005_813455
*RAND:	Yeah . 813620_814035
*LANC:	And at that point I said 814035_814985
	(.) don't need it now . 815090_815815
*LANC:	&=laugh &=laugh 815815_816105
	(..) They got it . 817700_818100
*RAND:	(..) Somebody in there ? 819535_820205
*LANC:	I think Laura went in there 820205_820940
	yeah . 820765_821080
*BILL:	(..) Comm 826005_826325
	(..) line for you . 826665_827470
*BILL:	XXX have a call on the other line . 828005_829250
*RAND:	(.) This is Randy . 829440_829965
*RAND:	(..) Okay . 832170_832570
*RAND:	(.) M_bye . 832840_833195
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